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Hi <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Mateusz, </span>Simon and <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Vincent,</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Thank you very much for you quick input! Especially Vincent, for sharing with us his communication with them.</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">I agree with all of you, a pity we can't use that imagery. But at least we have confirmed now the impossibility to use them.</span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>De:</b> Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk <legal-talk@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Enviado:</b> domingo, 20 de fevereiro de 2022 13:32<br>
<b>Para:</b> Licensing and other legal discussions. <legal-talk@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz@tutanota.com><br>
<b>Assunto:</b> Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Usage of Planet Labs NICFI imagery</font>
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<div>@<span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">Charlotte The big problem is
</span></span></span></span></span>"all of which must be Non-Commercial Use"<br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">OSM data can be used also for commercial use, without restriction.</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">It can be used by both</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">- researches documenting deforestation</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">- people withing to protect natural areas</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">- logging companies</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">Data source that include restrictions on commercial use of traced data</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style=""><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">cannot be used in OSM.</span></span></span></span></span><br>
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<div>Feb 20, 2022, 15:04 by vincent@veldman.me:<br>
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<div><span style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">Clear answer I got, posting it in this group. </span></span></span><br>
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<div><span style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">Thank you for your email. In the terms that are accepted on account set up there is a purpose that is being agreed to by signing up for the program
which stipulates that the data must be used in the pursuit of reversing and reducing the loss of tropical forests (I attach the full license terms here as a separate document). If your mapping work would include that activity then absolutely no problem.
If the mapping work is more for updating OSM in different regions e.g. roads, urban areas etc then that wouldn't apply I am afraid. </span></span></span><br>
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<div><span style=""><span class="" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span class="" style="font-size:14.6707px">If the mapping you want to do is different to the above then if you can share more then I would be pleased to review further</span></span></span><br>
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<div>From: Simon Poole <simon@poole.ch><br>
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<p>I gave the licence a quick skim, and besides causing chuckles at some slightly hilarious wording, it is a clear nono.<br>
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<p>Given that Norway is paying for the imagery, contacting the relevant government agency would be the obvious next step if trying to get access to the imagery is going to be pursued any further.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I am not a lawyer, but it seems clearly incompatible with OSM.<br>
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<div dir="auto">OSM data must allowing also commercial use.<br>
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<div dir="auto">If there are edits made using it, likely such edits should be reverted.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Maybe they would grant permission to use specifically for OSM mapping?<br>
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<div dir="auto">But they may have own legal obligations from owner of imagery making it impossible.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Note also final part, which allows Planet Labs Germany Gmbh to perform audit of use of<br>
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<div>Feb 18, 2022, 17:34 by <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="" href="mailto:matheus.gomes03@hotmail.com">
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<span style="margin:0px; text-align:left; color:rgb(32,33,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">Since October 2020, Norway through its NICFI program is sponsoring high resolution imagery from Planet Labs in the tropics. With this,
virtually anyone can have access to these imagery, which is aimed to be used for fighting deforestation (among other goals).</span><br>
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<span style="margin:0px; text-align:left; color:rgb(32,33,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">I couldn't find any info regarding this and OSM, so that's why I'm asking it here.</span><br>
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<span style="margin:0px; text-align:left; color:rgb(32,33,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">On their page, it seems that data is kinda freely available [1], but then I wanted to check with you more expert guys if we can use on
OSM. It doesn't seem they have a standard license (such as CC-BY os ODbL), but they do provide a document with the license of that imagery [2].</span><br>
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<span style="margin:0px; text-align:left; color:rgb(32,33,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">On OSM Contributors wiki page I found this permission: "</span><span style="margin:0px">Planet Labs Inc. through their Open Data Portal",
but I couldn't find more information. Reading the license, the 'Sharing' section made me unsure about the usage on OSM.</span><br>
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<span style="margin:0px">What do you guys think? Are we allowed to use, or should we ask for a waiver? (Or had anyone already contacted them and we received a negative answer?)</span><br>
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<span style="margin:0px">[2] </span><span style="margin:0px"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="" href="https://assets.planet.com/docs/Planet_ParticipantLicenseAgreement_NICFI.pdf">https://assets.planet.com/docs/Planet_ParticipantLicenseAgreement_NICFI.pdf</a></span><br>
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