<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Simon,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for your response.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Could you link me to the LWG? I'm not sure what that refers too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I had read the 'Publicly' definition and interpreted it as public use if the data is distributed outside your employees or contractors.</div><div dir="auto">Is there a directory or similar of legal professionals familiar with ODbL? I would like to get a definitive answer for my situation. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks again,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tom Peoples </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 28 June 2022, 16:10 Simon Poole, <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi <br>
</p>
<p>as usual IANAL and I don't speak for the licensor, and this
isn't legal advise.<br>
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<p>ODbL 4.6 is very clear</p>
<p>"Access to Derivative Databases. If You Publicly Use a Derivative
Database or a Produced Work from a Derivative Database, You must
also
offer to recipients of the Derivative Database or Produced Work a
copy
in a machine readable form of ...."</p>
<p>that you only need to offer a copy to recipients or the
Derivative Database.</p>
<p>Note: depending on the details of how your service works you may
not actually be publicly using the database in this specific
scenario in any case, see the definition of "Publicly" in 1.0,
there is further a LWG on a similar subject. <br>
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<div>Simon</div>
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<div>Am 28.06.2022 um 04:05 schrieb Tom
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<div>Hi Legal-Talk,</div>
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<div>I'm using OSM data & tools to build my business <a href="http://hevway.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Hevway</a>.</div>
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<div>TLDR;</div>
<div>Under the ODbL do I only need to offer the database to
users who have access to the derivative works or the general
public?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We take OSM data & merge it with open government road
networks for heavy vehicles(<a href="https://discover.data.vic.gov.au/dataset/hvr-4-5-axle-all-terrain-mobile-cranes2/resource/49349558-c8d8-4efc-a67d-1c19156ec328" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">4 & 5 Axle Crane Example</a>).</div>
<div>This lets us create maps & routes specific to the legal
classification of a vehicle.</div>
<div>I'm aware of my obligations under the ODbL to share the
result and we currently make the resulting .osm.pbf file
publicly available.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Recently we've been asked if we can add permit routes to
our routing system.</div>
<div>Permits allow a business to nominate one of their vehicles
to traverse an otherwise illegal route a limited number of
times or for a limited time period.</div>
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</div>
<div>These permits are intellectual property to the business and
as such they will not allow them to be publicly released.</div>
<div>Under the ODbL is my obligation to share the derivative
data only to the users who have access to it, or to the
general public?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
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