<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I would suggest we all share what we are doing on github per chapter: <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/osmfoundation/lcwg/issues/3">https://github.com/osmfoundation/lcwg/issues/3</a></div><div><br></div><div>About your two points, my personal views on this, getting people to be involved beyond mapping:</div><div><br></div><div>This is still one the most difficult issues we face, there is no obvious solution but we have some things that sort of work. Some of this was also in our SOTM talk.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It helps to make sure people identify with being a member of the chapter, in our case being a member of OSM Belgium needs to be a positive thing, OSM needs to be fun! It encourages people to contribute to the organization and not only the map. We also discuss in the open almost everything we do (and plan) leading to involvement of the core group as to why for example we are setting up a local chapter, why we are welcoming all new mappers. The welcoming for example started with pokémon go and people getting annoyed with new mappers making mistakes or vandalizing, we turned this into welcoming everyone doing their first edit and checking their work, there was an incentive to create this workflow & tools.</div><div><br></div><div>In my experience, making a decision in the OSM belgium board like 'we need to welcome all new mappers' and then expecting someone to do this is not realistic. When making the decision together that this is the way forward, the changes of someone picking this up is higher. It also makes things more sustainable because some feels ownership about what they did.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Other things that work is explicitly invite people to do stuff. We invited Jonathan to be on our board, we invite people to help with mapathons. Some people won't step forward on their own so easily as others do, and that's fine but try to figure out who wants to do more and where there is capacity to do so.</div><div><br></div><div>Another thing is that we think the only way to actually complete and update the map is to get more core mappers. If you get people to understand that they are also more willing to contribute. Mapping is thé best thing you can do, but some people can do one better and get 5 other people to also map.</div><div><br></div><div>What also helps is valuing (as in give attention and encouragement to) all kings of contributions, not just coding or mapping. For example someone doing workshops on OSM or talking to partner organizations is also very very valuable. Same for someone doing the boring admin stuff. You will end up with a proper team with diverse skills, exactly what you need.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On funding, we have just started on this but we are looking at a two key areas:</div><div><br></div><div>- Companies sponsoring: We have a few heavy users in Belgium and government is also a potential source. We have made and proved our case before that a good OSM map benefits everyone.<br></div><div>- Donations from individuals: This is already happening but informally, we want to formalize this.</div><div>- Crowdfunding for specific projects: We can use this when we want to do specific projects, let's say something where we map all cycling paths or walking networks.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We don't ask for a membership fee but we defined membership as a responsibility to OSM Belgium. This means you need to do *something* or your membership will expire unless you explicitly say you want to stay in. Think voting for the board, coming to meetups... we are still working on refining this. Everyone should be able to become a member and a membership fee stops some people before they can get to know us better.</div><div><br></div><div>I think this is what we should be sharing more and let's do that via this list or by documenting what we do with a focus on community building in the github repo.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Ben<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:06 PM Rob Nickerson <<a href="mailto:rob@osmuk.org">rob@osmuk.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>Thanks. And sorry for the delay in my response.</p>
<p>I would be more than happy to share ideas and comments here. But what? Which areas are people struggling with? And are there areas where a Working Group or Board intervention would help.</p>
<p>For OSM UK the main challenges are finding the volunteer time to commit to the local chapter. We have lots of people willing to map, but less willing to help with promotion (at least via a central group) and some admin tasks.</p>
<p>Our other main challenge is funds. We are small and have very limited funds.</p>
<p>Did any discussion about Micro Grants occur at State of the Map?</p>
<div>Thank you,<br>
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<p>On 2018-07-30 10:31, Raphael Das Gupta (das-g) wrote:</p>
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