<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I’ve been sending to talk-se from my Gmail account as normal. I’ve also tried to send to mailman@ from gmail to report the problem. All bounce. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Well, not bounce as in a bounce reply with mail headers and all, just a 451 reply from the remote server as Google try to deliver. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I’ll add mailman@ As rcpt from this box in this mail and report back when/if it fails/succeeds. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry, but my gmail is in swedish, this is all they say, but it really indicate the MX end on the OSM side. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Karl</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" data-zoom="1" class="zoom-out" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(212, 212, 213); -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.247059); padding-top: 32px; zoom: 0.9937888198757764; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><tbody style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><tr style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><td class="" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="zoom: 1; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><tbody style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><tr style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><td class="" style="max-width: 560px; padding: 24px 24px 32px; border: 1px solid rgb(224, 224, 224); border-top-left-radius: 2px; border-top-right-radius: 2px; border-bottom-right-radius: 2px; border-bottom-left-radius: 2px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><img width="72" height="72" alt="Felikon" src="cid:6168CAC1-0E21-4568-A70A-5E84CE683868" data-image-whitelisted="" style="padding: 0px 24px 16px 0px; float: left; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><table style="min-width: 272px; padding-top: 8px; zoom: 1; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><tbody style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><tr style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><td class="" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(49, 49, 49);"><h2 data-originalfontsize="20px" data-originalcomputedfontsize="20" style="font-size: 1.25rem; margin: 0px; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(33, 33, 33); color: rgb(33, 33, 33);">Leveransen har inte slutförts</h2></td></tr><tr style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128);"><td data-originalfontsize="16px" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" class="" style="padding-top: 20px; font-size: 1rem; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(117, 117, 117); color: rgb(117, 117, 117);">Ett tillfälligt problem uppstod när meddelandet skulle levereras till <a style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(33, 33, 33); color: rgb(33, 33, 33);"><b data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" style="font-size: 1rem; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(33, 33, 33);">talk-se@openstreetmap.org</b></a>. Gmail försöker igen i 47 timmar till innan försöket avbryts. Vi meddelar dig om meddelandet inte går att leverera.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr style="border: none rgb(49, 49, 49); font-size: 12.8px; width: 321.9842834472656px;"><td align="left" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="12.800000190734863" class="" style="padding: 48px 10px; font-size: 0.800000011920929rem; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(49, 49, 49);">Svaret från fjärrservern var:<br><p data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="12.800000190734863" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 0.800000011920929rem; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border-color: rgb(49, 49, 49);">451 Temporary local problem - please try later</p></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">16 feb. 2020 kl. 13:34 skrev Tom Hughes <tom@compton.nu>:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>I think I can see it in the logs.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I can't say too much because the address involved is not the</span><br><span>same but I think it is Karl and if it is then the problem is</span><br><span>that the address he is writing from is not valid.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Tom</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 16/02/2020 12:32, Tom Hughes wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>An actual bounce message would be more useful than snipping</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>out one factoid, so that I can see what machine it is coming</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from and have timestamps to match up to logs.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>That said it's clearly working in general so this is obviously</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>something specific to Karl's setup.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16/02/2020 12:30, Michael Collinson wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Karl, is this for talk-se when you are sending ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC'ing Tom Hughes who has the sysadmin access.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mike</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 2020-02-15 23:35, Karl Wettin wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sure someone already knows about this, but the Mailman has been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>bouncing for the last week or so.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>451 Temporary local problem - please try later</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Karl</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Tom Hughes (tom@compton.nu)</span><br><span>http://compton.nu/</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>