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On 7/19/2011 2:16 AM, Tom Chance wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 July 2011 22:21, Chris Fleming <span
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<div class="im">Does anyone think that corporate members
should get a vote?</div>
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<div>No, as others have said I think there is a role for
companies to sit on an advisory board, and their employees are
free to join as ordinary members.</div>
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<div>I also think a basic principle of our Articles should be
one member, one vote. It is wrong to start introducing rules
that weight votes in favour of people such as myself who have
been involved for many years, have many nodes, etc.</div>
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Finally is the fee putting people off joining, £15 a year is a
lot of money to some people. When OSMF was setup the option of
joining by sending a postcard to the foundation was offered,
but to my knowledge it was never taken up. But perhaps this is
a impediment to joining and if so the foundation may want to
be more flexible on the fee?</blockquote>
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<div>You could introduce a tapered membership fee based on
voluntary declaration of earnings, which I have seen used in
a number of organisations. For example:</div>
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<div>unwaged: £1/year</div>
<div>up to £20k/year: £5/year</div>
<div>up to £35k/year: £10/year</div>
<div>above £35k/year: £15/year</div>
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I think the income thing is unnecessary and the prices you quote are
far too small.<br>
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Just have graduated membership and allow people to self-select a-la
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.stevecoast.com/how-i-ran-a-successful-unconference-in-6-hour">http://blog.stevecoast.com/how-i-ran-a-successful-unconference-in-6-hour</a><br>
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So, the fees would go 1, 10, 100, 1000 or something like that. Just
a suggestion.<br>
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Steve<br>
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<div>But I would guess that there is a more fundamental reason
why OSM contributors don't necessarily join the OSMF, and
that is the OSMF's actual role.</div>
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<div>Let's say I'm an OSM contributor and I read the "About"
page on the OSMF web site. Why bother paying to join an
organisation that, according to its web site, just keeps
servers ticking over and organises an annual conference?</div>
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<div>Under the proposed ODbL structure, the OSMF takes on a
more formal controlling role over licensing.</div>
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<div>The Board and Working Groups clearly have a controlling
influence over the way our systems are run, not least
because many of the key developers and sysadmins sit on
those bodies.</div>
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<div>It is not clear from the Memorandum of Association and
the Articles of Association whether an AGM could for example
vote to overrule a decision of a sysadmin or developer,
thereby taking a more controlling influence over the
project.</div>
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<div>The relationship between the OSMF and the OSM project is
far more ambiguous and problematic than the OSMF "About" web
page suggests. Clarifying that might help OSM contributors
who are more concerned with tagging disputes and the next
API revision to decide whether the OSMF is relevant to them.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Tom Chance</div>
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