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Mikel,<br>
<br>
Please refrain from ad hominem. <br>
<br>
I do think HOT does some nice things. My point was about its
governance model. <br>
(It may be true that I have been in a position to directly witness
some of its drawbacks).<br>
<br>
(and since HOT uses "OpenStreetMap" in its name, this list might not
be an inappropriate place to discuss it, while limiting the risk to
damage the motivation of volunteers.)<br>
<br>
Quote (about HOT): "publishing very detailed board minutes"<br>
Where are they published? According to the very discrete wiki page<br>
( <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1896766488moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Meetings">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Meetings</a>
), apparently there has not been any HOT board meeting in 2011, is
this right ?<br>
<br>
Jean-Guilhem<br><br></div></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>You said that HOT is closed and self-elected, a pretty outrageous, untrue statement.<br><br>Point taken on the wiki page lacking info. We need to fix that. There was a thorough report on the list.<br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2011-September/000960.html<br><br>This list is to discuss the OSM Foundation. HOT is not a Foundation project. Let's move any further discussion somewhere else.<br><br>-Mikel<br></div></div></div></div></body></html>