<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Harry</div><div><br></div><div>I'm just reporting the facts. If you want me to make a fuss I can.</div><div><br></div><div>Management is where I was told things were supposed to go, and I have repeatedly emailed communication@ Richard Fairhurst has also known about it for about a month explicitly from board@ emails.</div><div><br></div><div>You guys took away the twitter access, you should give it back. It's that simple. You are the people who broke the trust and I've spent 3 months banging my head against a wall paying for it.<br><br>Steve</div><div><br>On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Harry Wood <<a href="mailto:mail@harrywood.co.uk">mail@harrywood.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">> On the same day I asked the management team for access again. It's a request I've been making repeatedly for the last 96 days.<br><br>I think I heard indirectly about you requesting this at some point. You know full well CWG is managing this stuff, so I don't know why you wouldn't make the request repeatedly to CWG. Why would you kick up a massive "losing faith" fuss on this list before emailing communication@ directly about this issue? It reminds me of the time I put out a blog post about the ESRI donation, and you sent an email to this list stirring up a massive row about the constitution of the OSMF and how CWG were taking outrageous decisions to keep
things secret ...when you could have just emailed me to ask.</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">> Today, the CWG has at last made a decision. Nobody is to be allowed access.</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">We chatted briefly about twitter access today.</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><a href="http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/CWG_meeting_2013-01-14">http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/CWG_meeting_2013-01-14</a></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">It didn't seem sensible to share the password with more people at this time, because of the obvious lack of security and accountability that such a set-up entails, b<span style="font-size: 12pt; ">ut also because I wasn't aware that anyone was all that fussed. Didn't particularly realise we were discussing a request from you. </span></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br></span></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">> To tweet, you have to email CWG, wait a week, they will then consider your tweet and may or may not tweet it.</span><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">Well no. If you think we've missed some exciting news which needs tweeting, email us or IRC us and we'll put out a tweet. We have been endeavouring to post relevant news in a timely manner on the @openstreetmap twitter account. We're also trying to maintain a balanced reasonable frequency of posts, keeping things "on message" for the OSMF, and writing posts in a particular "voice". Then again we don't sweat it too much. We might well miss some news which is deserving of a tweet, so yeah an email or IRC suggestion could be useful. If there's something which is controversial or problematic in some other way, we might have to discuss it first.</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">> I've emailed Simon and the board to find out whether this is also their policy before I become extremely public, negative and personal about the issue.</span><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">ooookkkk. So like I say. Little bit surprised you haven't emailed communication@ directly about this.</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">As we discussed in this
evening's CWG meeting (*) we are aware there are some systems for federating access to the twitter account (such that we don't share the one single password with lots of people) and perhaps including some workflow for authorising of tweets. Could be a positive way forwards. Perhaps somebody has suggestions/experiences of this? <span style="font-size: 12pt; ">But there's a bit of work involved in deciding the best way to do these things. Not high on priority list, because the current approach seemed adequate ...But since you asked so nicely Steve, I'm sure we'll move this up our list of things to discuss again.</span></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">Harry</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times,
serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57">* Just three of us meeting today. CWG is a bit short of manpower. If anyone else is interested in volunteering for this, you'll get the respect and admiration of everyone except Steve it seems. Apparently he's "losing faith".</div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_7_2_17_1358198180797_57"><br> </div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></body></html>