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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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      Could we not use the recurring subscription feature of PayPal? 
      From my perspective thats much simpler, I set it up once and its
      taken care of from then on.  I would even be happy to pay a little
      extra to be able to pay via PayPal (I know their fees can be a bit
      steep), if I could do the recurring subscription, in this case I
      am just paying for my convenience.<br>
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      Scott<br>
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      On 28/08/2013 22:32, Ed Freyfogle wrote:<br>
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        <div>Agree there should be a Euro (and also other major world
          currencies) account.<br>
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        Until there is I can highly recommend transferwise - it's peer
        to peer currency transfer at much, much lower rate than banks.
        Here's an invite link <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://transferwise.com/u/1901">http://transferwise.com/u/1901</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Michael Larkin <span
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              <div> On subscription matter , why don't we have a Euro
                bank account so that those of us who pay in Euro can
                avoid the conversion costs that banks (and Pay Pal )
                apply to Sterling?Euro conversions. These just increase
                bank profits and one transaction by the Treasurer should
                suffice to transfer the funds<br>
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              Michael Larkin<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On 28 August 2013 20:17, Hugo
                Holscher <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:hugoholscher@gmail.com" target="_blank">hugoholscher@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Personnally
                  I am not in favor of direct debit. Not sure how it is
                  for most of you, but the time consuming thing is to go
                  to the website figure out the numbers, cut and paste
                  them. That all could go in the e-mail with renewal
                  request. ALso a unique number (like an invoice number)
                  would render the additional e-mail unnessary.<br>
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                  Hugo<br>
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                  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Harry Wood<br>
                  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:28 PM<br>
                  To: Andy Allan ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org"
                    target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
                  Subject: [Osmf-talk] Automatic membership renewal<br>
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                    Andy wrote:<br>
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                    As an example, I'm once again faced with a
                    non-trivial amount of<br>
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                    clicking links and reading websites in order to
                    renew my OSMF<br>
                    membership. The email reminder is sitting there
                    unactioned for 24 days<br>
                    already. With the way we've set things up, you get
                    kicked out of the<br>
                    OSMF every year by default.<br>
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                    In contrast, I'm a member of two organisations
                    (London Cycling<br>
                    Campaign and the British Mountaineering Council)
                    were my membership<br>
                    gets renewed automatically and the first I notice is
                    when my fresh<br>
                    membership card drops through the letterbox. I bet
                    their retention<br>
                    rate is higher than ours!<br>
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                    I don't see any need to focus on lots of new ways to
                    generate income<br>
                    when our current sources are so half-heartedly
                    organised.<br>
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                  OK. Automatic member renewal.<br>
                  This seems like a concrete suggestion with no downside
                  apart from the question of how to set it up.<br>
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                  At the moment I pay my membership fee following the
                  "UK bank transfer" instructions.<br>
                  I guess in the first instance we could just change
                  those instructions to say "Please set up an annual
                  direct debit"? For payments from foreign banks, I'm
                  not sure though. And the membership secretary (Henk)
                  would need to adjust procedures a little. No need to
                  send a reminder, but would need to check that the
                  direct debit has gone through each time. In the long
                  run it would probably reduce the amount of nagging
                  emails and other processing needed.<br>
                  <br>
                  Harry<br>
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