<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I don’t think that was really necessary, and it’s not particularly true either.<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Johan & Marguerite <<a href="mailto:textline@gmail.com" class="">textline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-01 12:40 GMT+01:00 Henk Hoff<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:toffehoff@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">toffehoff@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">Like I said, there are many ways how to introduce term limits. I all depends<br class="">on what problem you want to solve.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since voting in favour of Special Resolution 1 means voting against you continuing your Board work it could be that SR 1 was drafted up because you are being seen as the problem. Why? Well, maybe because you were active in organizing SOTM's without drafting up meeting notes, maybe it was because you didn't share the full member lists to other board members. I wish the membership wisdom in voting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, Johan</div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br class="">Van: Ilya Zverev [mailto:<a href="mailto:ilya@zverev.info" class="">ilya@zverev.info</a>]<br class="">Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2014 12:06<br class="">Aan: Henk Hoff<br class="">CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">Onderwerp: Re: [Osmf-talk] How to vote to match your view<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br class="">You are opposing term limits. It's not "this proposal vs. better one", it's<br class="">term limits or status quo. You (and the rest of the Board) had a week to<br class="">discuss and fix Simon's resolutions, and three weeks to come with an<br class="">alternative proposal (and it's the Board who set the deadline).<br class=""><br class="">This behaviour, "do perfectly or do nothing", is what have been hindering<br class="">OSM development for past years, and I hope the new Board would actively<br class="">oppose that. We are not a multimillion industry that would lose stocks<br class="">because of non-perfect actions.<br class=""><br class="">Passing these resolutions is exactly the way to attract more good people to<br class="">do things. It's not like Board members who step down suddenly would lose all<br class="">will to help OSM because of that.<br class=""><br class="">IZ<br class=""><br class="">> Where does it say that I'm opposing term limits?<br class=""><br class="">> I'm opposing term limits as stipulated in the current resolutions.<br class="">> There are many other ways in how you could introduce term limits.<br class="">> The resolutions are unbalanced proposals. We need to have a situation<br class="">> where we can attract good people to do things. Not to shut people out.<br class=""><br class="">> Henk<br class=""><br class="">> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br class="">> Van: Paul Norman [mailto:<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" class="">penorman@mac.com</a>]<br class=""><br class="">> Term limits have been supported by Richard Weait, Frederik, Martin,<br class="">> Marek, Kathleen, Steve Coast, Mikel, Johan, Randy, Ethan, and myself.<br class=""><br class="">> Term limits have been opposed by Oliver, Peter, and Henk.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> osmf-talk mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">IZ<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">osmf-talk mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">osmf-talk mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>