<div dir="ltr">>I have been and I am still a big oponent to paying staff. We're a<br>>community project, so either put your time in for free or step<br>>down and let others do the work. Let us try to not make the same<br>>mistakes as WMF did.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">And if the community decide that none of them wanting to be doing x hours a week on paperwork and would rather pay someone to do it?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">A community project can still hire staff, especially if the community fails to provide the people interested in doing it. That's understandable - who gets involved for the joy of mapping and then moves to the joy of administrata? </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">"Community projects shouldn't employ staff" is guff, sorry.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 March 2015 at 10:52, Peter Barth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@won2.de" target="_blank">osm@won2.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Frederik, you may possibly already know my opinion and I'd like<br>
to state it publicly.<br>
<br>
I have been and I am still a big oponent to paying staff. We're a<br>
community project, so either put your time in for free or step<br>
down and let others do the work. Let us try to not make the same<br>
mistakes as WMF did.<br>
<br>
Anyway, what really upsets me when reading your mail: Every member<br>
talked about transparency in their manifestos, everyone had one or the<br>
other plan. And indeed, there had been *one* summary of a board<br>
meeting written by Paul, but that's been all. There had been another<br>
article stating how cool the f2f meeting was and how well everyone<br>
played with the others. But honestly, I'm not interessted in that but<br>
in the results, in your work,.. just by accident someone discovered<br>
there will not be a SOTM this year, why isn't that published? I had<br>
to wait several weeks to learn about your plans of hiring staff. For<br>
what? You don't even know, you're asking us.<br>
<br>
I'm really disapointed. Not by you (Frederik) but by you, the<br>
OSMF-board. Nothing changed, it just got worse.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Peda<br>
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