<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_45850" dir="ltr"><span>Sarah</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_45850" dir="ltr"> <br clear="none" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48665"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48664">Your comment about Kathleen is inaccurate, a mis-characterization, and uncalled for. Kathleen did no such thing. Let's return to some basic decorum and respect here, or otherwise, hold our tongues.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48664"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48664" dir="ltr">Sincerely</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48664" dir="ltr">-Mikel</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48667"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426160278017_48670">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br></div></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 2:19 PM, Sarah Hoffmann <lonvia@denofr.de> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:34:53AM -0500, Eleanor Tutt wrote:<br clear="none">> I think we need to respect that the board is examining the possibility of<br clear="none">> part time administrative help for good reason. I like that they are<br clear="none">> looking for general feedback first before asking us to comment on a<br clear="none">> specific plan.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That is all well in theory but the plan has a serious flaw. In order to<br clear="none">give an informed opinion about paid stuff/help, we would have to understand<br clear="none">what the board is actually doing. I for one still don't have a<br clear="none">clue because the board's lips are as sealed as ever. That just can't work.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I appreciate the intentions to involve the community in the discussion<br clear="none">process but I think we have to start at a much more fundamental level.<br clear="none">The minutes have improved significantly in the last half year (even<br clear="none">though I wish they were more timely or at least announced when ready, but<br clear="none">I know what tiring chore it is to write up minutes). But minutes don't<br clear="none">help to get an impression on the day-to-day work, which probably would<br clear="none">involve the actual adminstrative work the board is currently being<br clear="none">overloaded with.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And before Kathleen now feels justified in telling the members to shut<br clear="none">up and let the board do whatever it feels like doing, I would like to<br clear="none">remind you that you are running the foundation on donation money and<br clear="none">that you have a certain moral obligation to justify that the money is<br clear="none">wisely spent. So, please, give a few examples of the administrative<br clear="none">task currently holding up the board and I'm sure there are people<br clear="none">who can weigh in with their experience on whether it works or not<br clear="none">to load that off to a paid aid.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sarah<div class="yqt4056908742" id="yqtfd30716"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>