<div dir="ltr"><div>As I know these maps are under roscartography's copyright. <br></div><br>In a nutshell, in USSR it were a state department of geodesy and cartography, <br>which were a formal owner of that maps,<br>and roscartography has inherited <a href="http://www.lingvo-online.ru/ru/Search/Translate/GlossaryItemExtraInfo?text=%d0%bd%d0%b0%d1%81%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%82%d1%8c&translation=inherit&srcLang=ru&destLang=en" title="Показать примеры употребления" class=""><span class=""></span></a>most of assets.<br><div><div><br></div><div>There are many questionable issues in this transition of rights, <br>but in ru community we avoid to trace those maps.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Any way, there are other sources for information, which hasn't yet been outdated since 1980s.<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-19 22:14 GMT+05:00 Rich <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richlv@nakts.net" target="_blank">richlv@nakts.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 19/07/15 19:08, Simon Poole wrote:<br>
> Martin didn't mention the outcome of the discussions: there is no<br>
> indication that they are out of copyright at least not just from an age<br>
> point of view, at the time it was a bit unclear who the copyright holder<br>
> was, but I wouldn't assume that there is none (naturally that doesn't<br>
> stop entrepreneurs from still selling them etc. particularly when they<br>
> are located in the US).<br>
<br>
</span>there are rumours that a certain mapping company in one of the countries<br>
mentioned in the article was bootstrapped by lifting most of the<br>
information from the previously secret military maps. back in the early<br>
nineties, "copyright" was not a word around here :)<br>
<br>
overall, between the age of those maps and the tiny copyright issue, i'd<br>
probably suggest not to invest any time into tracing or lifting features<br>
from them. if you do it on a personal level and on a small scale, i<br>
doubt anybody will suspect/catch you, though. just sayin' :)<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
> Simon<br>
><br>
> Am 19.07.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Andy Mabbett:<br>
>> On 19 July 2015 at 13:00, Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> To derive information for today's OSM the problem is that they are really old now (e.g. 1989 is 26 years from today)<br>
>><br>
>> That's not necessarily a problem - many features do not change, We've<br>
>> used out-of-copyright Ordnance Survey maps for this purpose for years.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Another thought occurs to me: we should invite one of the guys dealing<br>
>> with these maps to speak at a SoTM.<br>
</span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
Rich<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Thank you for your time. Best regards.<br>Dmitry.</div></div>
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