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<p>The survey is going to be skewed in many ways for example by
higher participation from people associated with organisations
with a vested interest in paid/organized editing. I don't really
think anybody was even remotely assuming that this was going to be
representative (doing a representative survey would face many many
challenges in any case), but more simply a rough gathering of
sentiment on the issue. Given that, I think we can live with the
slight advantage we've given to English speakers. Just as with the
suggestion to have the questions vetted by the community in
advance, there is just so much bureaucracy that you can apply to
such a simple action without it becoming too heavyweight to ever
happen. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.10.2017 um 10:28 schrieb Manfred
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<div>One of my biggest reservations is the fact that the
survey is being conducted in English only.</div>
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<div>From my work for weeklyOSM I know for sure that many
contributors from French-speaking cultural circles or
speakers from Latin America will certainly be overwhelmed by
the survey in English. The same applies to many of the
German-speaking contributors I have spoken to.</div>
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<div>In this way, the result will certainly not be
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear
Friends,</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I just
took the survey, and have to say that my
graduate degree in agricultural economics, which
included a course in survey sampling and
statistical methods, informed me that there was
not a lot of bias in the survey, with all due
respect to my OSM volunteer colleagues who have
raised objections to it. IMHO the survey
addresses a very real problem of correcting
problems inserted by paid organized mappers
(with which I have had to contend more than once
in mapping the distant, largely unheard of
country of Turkmenistan), who are thousands of
miles away, and base their edits on
five-year-old Bing imagery coupled with gross
assumptions of what the ground truth would
reveal.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Could
the survey have been designed better? Yes,
probably it could have been, had we engaged some
social scientists with Ph.D.s in statistical
survey techniques, but for the OSM Foundation's
purposes, this survey will likely prove adequate
to gauge the opinions of the mapping community.
I'm glad I had the opportunity to voice my
opinion about something that irritates
me--having to fix errors inserted by people who
aren't within a thousand miles of here, but
think they know what they are doing.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Warm
regards to all, best regards from sunny
Ashgabat--and be sure to look up my Mapillary
images from this weekend of a trip to see the
longest dinosaur tracks in the world, once my
smartphone finishes uploading them!</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">cheers,<br>
apm-wa (Allan Mustard)<br>
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<pre>We plan to close the survey on Sunday night (at 23:59:59 UTC), that's 2
days and 16 hours from now. We'll then take some time to analyze the
results and share them with you, then draft a policy informed by the
results and the discussion here and elsewhere, and present that for
further discussion.
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