<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div><div><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">Before we go too far down the usual way discussions in OSM go</span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z ydp925f4bb2s-lparen"> </span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z ydp925f4bb2h-lparen">(</span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">we have a tendency to get pretty argumentative and tire each other out), wanted to draw out where I see agreement in the survey and comments so far.</span></div><div><br></div><ul class="ydp925f4bb2listtype-bullet ydp925f4bb2listindent1 ydp925f4bb2list-bullet1"><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">The survey is only a data point in a longer process</span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z ydp925f4bb2s-mdash"> </span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z ydp925f4bb2h-mdash">—</span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z"> it’s not a guideline or policy in itself</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">No survey is perfect</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">Words are hard</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">The OSM community does not yet represent all geographies, genders, languages, backgrounds etc. This is a hard challenge for us.</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">Good communication is very important to all of us</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">Distinctions between different parts of our community are important to consider, but not hard lines or always helpful</span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">“</span><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z"><i>organised mapping efforts are an integral part of today's OSM contribution landscape and, when done well, help make OSM better and more widely known.”</i></span></li><li><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">There’s a lot to do in OSM and OSMF, and only so little time and energy</span></li></ul><div><br></div><div><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z">On the Board, we certainly represent differences of opinions. What’s been very encouraging in our time together has been success at finding and focusing on common ground, recognizing and organizing for our common hopes for OSM. Like any society, there are differences of opinion and community dynamics which will never resolve. What I hope to see more of is a collective recognition, management and responsibility of our common ideas, and our disagreements, and more energy put into efforts that produce tangible results and progress for the map we love. </span></div><div><span class="ydp925f4bb2author-d-iz88z86z86za0dz67zz78zz78zz74zz68zjz80zz71z9iz90z9z84z35z122zz89z8z67zz122zz75zhumebpbz87z6tixz88zz87z1vz89zs7z88zz83z"><br></span></div><div>-Mikel<br></div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydpba1bc783signature">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Tuesday, October 17, 2017, 8:27:38 PM EDT, Frederik Ramm <frederik@remote.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir='ltr'><html><body>Hi,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">the results are in!<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group/Results_of_Organised_Editing_Survey_2017" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group/Results_of_Organised_Editing_Survey_2017</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thank you everyone who participated.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Bye<br clear="none">Frederik<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org" href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a> ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<div class="yqt8569422945" id="yqtfd88846"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none"></div></body></html></div></div>
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