<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>Agree with Martijn. I don't see term limits as a priority, or probably necessary. If we were going to think about governance issues, there are other things I'd start with first (yes, for instance, rationalizing the length of terms to cut down confusion; or building up structures for local chapters). As it is, I don't see governance structures as the main thing OSMF needs energy put into right now anyhow.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpbf3fe8b5signature">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div id="yahoo_quoted_1040630565" class="yahoo_quoted">
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>
On Friday, November 10, 2017, 10:58:41 AM EST, Martijn van Exel <m@rtijn.org> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id="yiv8069014954"><div><div dir="ltr">Nobody on the board has made it a priority to work on this for as long as I have been on the board.<div>For me, it is clearly not a priority. I would support fixed term lengths. I don't think that forced term limits would bring us much, and I don't necessarily agree with the observation that incumbents have an advantage.</div><div>Martijn</div></div><div class="yiv8069014954yqt8377309539" id="yiv8069014954yqt20731"><div class="yiv8069014954gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8069014954gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Christoph Hormann <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chris_hormann@gmx.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:chris_hormann@gmx.de">chris_hormann@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8069014954gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span class="yiv8069014954">On Friday 10 November 2017, Kate Chapman wrote:<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> I don't think term limits are necessary. They did not pass<br clear="none">
> previously.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</span>For future reference the opinions of the current board members as i have<br clear="none">
found them:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Peda:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
historically against<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM14/Election_to_Board">https://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/ AGM14/Election_to_Board</a><br clear="none">
undecided later<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board#Board_term_limits">https://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/ AGM15/Election_to_Board#Board_ term_limits</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Kate:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
against (see above)<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Martijn:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
unknown<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Mikel:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
for some kind of limitation<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-September/002492.html">https://lists.openstreetmap. org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014- September/002492.html</a><br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-November/002916.html">https://lists.openstreetmap. org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014- November/002916.html</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Paul:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
for<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM14/Election_to_Board">https://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/ AGM14/Election_to_Board</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Frederik:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
for<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Frederik_Ramm/2016_OSMF_Board_Elections_Manifesto">https://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/User:Frederik_Ramm/ 2016_OSMF_Board_Elections_ Manifesto</a><br clear="none">
plus statement of a personal term limit<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
* Ilya:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
for<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board#Board_term_limits">https://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/ AGM15/Election_to_Board#Board_ term_limits</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
That would make 4 board members for some kind of term limit, one<br clear="none">
against, one unknown and one undecided. Even if i count the unknown as<br clear="none">
against that does not really add up.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
So can someone please point out my error?<br clear="none">
<span class="yiv8069014954im yiv8069014954HOEnZb"><br clear="none">
--<br clear="none">
Christoph Hormann<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.imagico.de/">http://www.imagico.de/</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</span><div class="yiv8069014954HOEnZb"><div class="yiv8069014954h5">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk">https://lists.openstreetmap. org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none">
</div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt8377309539" id="yqt34574">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
</div>
</div></div></body></html>