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<p>Dale (and Pete and Ben and Joseph and any others)</p>
<p>The affiliation with HOT doesn't disqualify you at all, but, just
as it would be expected anywhere else (literally), when commenting
on matters concerning the organization that you are affiliated
with, even if it is just peripheral as in this case, you should
declare that affiliation up front and not rely on the audience
finding out some other way, if at all. <br>
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<p>Simon</p>
<p>PS: this may seem somewhat overboard with respect to HOT voting
members, but HOT has a small closed membership that at least
socially boils down to far closer ties to the organisation that
you would expect for your average association or for example the
OSMF.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23.11.2017 18:02, Dale Kunce wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Christoph, our affiliation with HOT should not
disqualify us from participating in this forum. We are all our
osmf members just like you. I'm also a paid member of OSM-US. I
don't devalue your participation hear because of your
participation in your other OSM communities don't do the same to
us.
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<div dir="auto">If anything working with HOT has given us a
better perspective of the needs of local OSM communities
around the world. Honestly, I think OSMF members would be well
served to learn the hard learned lessons that HOT has
especially around the importance of how we talk to one
another. The how is almost as important as the what in many
cases because it builds community in a positive way and works
to break down tribal barriers which you are promoting by
continually calling out our participation in HOT. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2017 8:47 AM, "joost
schouppe" <<a href="mailto:joost.schouppe@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">joost.schouppe@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
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<div>I'm not in HOT, and I stand strongly with Ben on this
one. I thought I made that clear above. Seeing Ben as a
"HOT person" is a clear misunderstanding of what he
means to the Belgian community.</div>
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<div>I am not aware that literally shaming people for
having the audacity to run for board is something that
is acceptable in French culture. It is not in Belgian
culture, as far as I know, and they are not that far
removed from us. Nothing British/American about that</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Joost Schouppe</div>
<div dir="ltr"><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">OpenStreetMap</a> | <a
href="https://twitter.com/joostjakob"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Twitter</a> | <a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Link<wbr>edIn</a> | <a
href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Meetup</a></div>
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