<div dir="ltr">I agree with you, Simon. My viewpoint isn't opposed to Rob's!<div><br></div><div>Anyone should be able to publicly challenge and question candidates - as equally we are able to challenge the premise of those same questions. If Sev truly believes that our leaders should have one or ten or a hundred thousand changesets to their name, that's fine. I don't have to agree and I can respond as such.</div><div><br></div><div>My point is that the language Sev uses is disrespectful, personal and hurtful. That's not ok in my book.... Firstly, for Heather - no-one should have to read that. And secondly, because this hostility <i>discourages</i> debate and divides community.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Pete</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:25 PM, joost schouppe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joost.schouppe@gmail.com" target="_blank">joost.schouppe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">2017-11-23 13:42 GMT+01:00 Rob Nickerson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com" target="_blank">rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>It's a difficult one because if you stand for one of these two vacancies then you open your self up to challenge - essential for a functioning democracy. On the other hand challenging via the written medium is hard to get right. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thinking about TV interviews of politicians I can imagine presenters putting these same challenges to the candidate. I.e. they seem like reasonable challenges to have.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Well, I haven't seen TV interviews where a journalist says something like "you seem to know nothing about health care, isn't it shameless to offer to be minister of health". (but maybe I don't watch TV enough?). </div><div><br></div><div>This really sets the tone:</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div>> <span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px">Seeking to join the board of the OSM Foundation with such a high OSM profile is really shameless</span></div><div><br></div></span><div>I am all for challenging candidates, but shaming them goes a bit further than that. I'd hate to think that the best candidates for this election are not participating because they prefer not to be publicly shamed in this way. Sure, you have the right to say things like this here, but I doubt very strongly that this kind of tone is good for the project. Just stating the facts as you see them, might have led to a discussion about facts. Now we're just going to discuss wether or not this kind of talk is OK or not.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_5222074126163018376gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Joost Schouppe</div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/" target="_blank">OpenStreetMap</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/joostjakob" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603" target="_blank">Link<wbr>edIn</a> | <a href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/" target="_blank">Meetup</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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