<div dir="ltr">I've added a question for candidates regarding this: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM17/Election_to_Board#OSMF_Paying_Staff.2FContractors">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM17/Election_to_Board#OSMF_Paying_Staff.2FContractors</a><div><br></div><div>Though I'm also interested in what others think and hope they will add their thoughts to this thread. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Yves <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yvecai@gmail.com" target="_blank">yvecai@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Paying the board? What a strange idea to me. <br>
OSMF is far from a professional or very strong organization in its goals for the moment. <br>
Compensations would be an interesting step however. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
Yves <br></font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 25 novembre 2017 18:47:09 GMT+01:00, Martijn van Exel <<a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank">m@rtijn.org</a>> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Paying people in key positions in OSM could be a big step forward but is not without its challenges. What positions are 'key'? How do you evaluate new candidates against incumbents? Who gets to do this? And practically, where does the money come from? If you ask me, the money is the easiest hurdle to cross. Creating an organization and culture that has a transparent process to hiring the best people for the job who work side by side with volunteers, is more difficult. But if we want to go that way I think the board could play a role to set the stage. The board positions should remain unpaid.<div><br></div><div>Martijn</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Kate Chapman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com" target="_blank">kate@maploser.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I thought this was worth having its own discussion. <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Simon Poole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>></span> wrote<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_9116894644943812884m_-3406085831392452033HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Simon<br>
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PS: there is the other problem that why on earth would you want to
pay the board first? Surely you would want to pay the people on the
OWG, DWG and LWG before the directors, given they are actually core
to operations not the board, unluckily that would probably amount to
a couple of million just for starters.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> Yes, I'd pay quite a few people prior to paying the board. Some of the things the board does are much more operational items than what a truely strategic board would do. To me if we were to start paying people to do those things we would hire someone to do it rather than pay ourselves. Dorothea over the past year has helped immensely in this way, so there already is a precedent. </div><span class="m_9116894644943812884HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Kate</div></font></span></div></div></div>
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