<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I'd like to remind everyone that we're on the OpenStreetMap Foundation Talk mailing list. It's not clear to me how the two ongoing HOT threads on this list are related to OSMF or its membership.</div><div><br></div><div>It would be great to see some action from the moderators of this mailing list to keep threads on topic.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ian</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Toggenburger Lukas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Lukas.Toggenburger@htwchur.ch" target="_blank">Lukas.Toggenburger@htwchur.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We certainly noted the heavy accusations against HOT. I do not agree with your conclusion that these cases should not
be discussed publicly: Since the accusations have already been made (one of them being the accusation of censorship), uninformed readers (like me) might believe they are true, since your/HOT’s refusal to discuss them seem to exactly confirm the accusation
of censorship. This may be a good opportunity now to clarify. Since Nicolas and Severin stepped forward, I assume they agree that their case will be publicly dissected. Why do you believe, that not doing it will be counterproductive to the goal of “building
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am looking forward to reading from you/HOT.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 17:32<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>; Christoph Hormann <<a href="mailto:chris_hormann@gmx.de" target="_blank">chris_hormann@gmx.de</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] HOT US Inc use of Code Of Conduct (CoC) for Membership control after 2015 OSMF Board election<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The purpose and process of the Code of Conduct as it is presented in this thread is not accurate.
<span style="color:black">This is not about silencing criticism. </span>Healthy dialogue includes and must have criticism. But this comes with a collective responsibility to build a good and productive space for the community and a need to respect others.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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