<div dir="ltr"><div>Simon, thanks. I think there's a couple misunderstandings though.</div><div><br></div>> <span style="font-size:12.8px">Heathers election platform essentially offers to (re-)form the OSMF (and by extension OSM) just as you did HOT</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I've seen nothing from Heather that suggests "reforming" OSMF and OSM. Rather her vision fits nicely with the current course and ideas which the Board and Foundation. Helping to engage more members and volunteers in our efforts is something we all want.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div>> <span style="font-size:12.8px">the humanitarian sector voluntarily limiting itself to a presence of a maximum of two seats on the OSMF board</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">(note a limit not an entitlement). This should encompasses employees and equivalent of such organisations, larger funders and organisations that derive a majority of their income from such organisations.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">So, there are currently zero people on the Board "from the humanitarian sector". I don't know if this limit would be valid or not, but it's definitely not relevant for the current election.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">-Mikel</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Simon Poole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_8116931726818001542moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.12.2017 um 04:21 schrieb Mikel
Maron:<br>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">A few notes, on all this discussion of HOT, and what’s actually relevant from that for the OSMF.</span></p>
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Thank Mikel for clarifying this.<br>
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It does show why it both current threads on osmf-talk are completely
on topic, Heathers election platform essentially offers to (re-)form
the OSMF (and by extension OSM) just as you did HOT. Hearing out to
a certain point those that lost out in HOT due to such a course is
just a part of determining if we want to elect somebody that is
proposing a similar course.<br>
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Now I'm not sure there is much point in hearing the nitty-gritty
details of who did what, because in the end what does count, is that
in the end an identifiable sub-group couldn't continue on working
inside HOT, including the co-founder. That is quite OK in a
startuppy kind of way (we can wait for the <span>cinematic
version in "The Humanita</span>rian Network" :-)), but as you say
it can not be a role model for OSM.<br>
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Given the perceived need for strong leadership, clear command
structures and responsibilities in the humanitarian sector that you
describe, it is unlikely the the influence of the humanitarian
sector topic will be going away and will continue to have the
potential for lots of strife: what about the humanitarian sector
voluntarily limiting itself to a presence of a maximum of two seats
on the OSMF board (note a limit not an entitlement). This should
encompasses employees and equivalent of such organisations, larger
funders and organisations that derive a majority of their income
from such organisations.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Simon<br>
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