<div dir="ltr">In your defence Blake, the subject of this thread does read "Surveys (was: Gender in OSM/OSMF)"<div><br></div><div>I'd like to think that I am not further derailing the thread because I think the comment by both Frederik and yourself is a relevant one (surveys are hard), also I hope the OSMF will follow up on your suggestion of enquiring with Statistics Without Borders.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Joseph</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 December 2017 at 14:49, Blake Girardot <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bgirardot@gmail.com" target="_blank">bgirardot@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Christoph Hormann <<a href="mailto:chris_hormann@gmx.de">chris_hormann@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wednesday 06 December 2017, Blake Girardot wrote:<br>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>> > There's much more to designing a survey than clicking around<br>
>> > for an hour on survey monkey ;)<br>
>><br>
>> Heh, I wish you had expressed that opinion more strongly before the<br>
>> DWG top-down control over mapping focused survey was sent out :)<br>
>><br>
>> [...]<br>
><br>
> I think you are not doing the topic here (Gender balance in OSM) a<br>
> favour by deflecting into a completely different topic with implied<br>
> accusations.<br>
><br>
> Lets stay on topic here and if you want to discuss the organized editing<br>
> survey beyond what has already been discussed on the matter move that<br>
> to the appropriate thread (and skip the vague implications of course).<br>
><br>
<br>
</span>Fair enough, I felt it was more a comment on how we can all be biased<br>
to accept something, survey data or a process in some circumstances,<br>
but then reject and/or ridicule those exact same processes when the<br>
topic is different.<br>
<br>
But for sure, I did not mean to derail the conversation from improving<br>
gender diversity in OSM and I apologize for unintentionally doing<br>
that.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Blake<br>
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