<div dir="ltr">My 5 cents:<div><br></div><div>Usually we are all from other places, so some field work with locals are always fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Most of attendees knows how to gather data in the field, so it will not gives you new skill, </div><div>but you'll get some knowledge how typical addresses residential buildings and commercial buildings looks like.</div><div><br></div><div>And just +1 for all points in Frederik's message.</div><div><br></div><div>Dmitry.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-21 20:58 GMT-04:00 Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Rob,<br>
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> - Do you want State of the Map to include workshops? If so, how many?<br>
> - What topics make good workshops? Is there a workshop that you would<br>
> really like to see next year?<br>
> - How could we encourage more people to host workshops?<br>
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</span>IMHO workshops work best if people can learn a concrete skill. Topics<br>
that would make good workshops:<br>
<br>
* setting up a tile (or Nominatim, Overpass, routing, OpenVectorTiles)<br>
server<br>
* writing your own Carto CSS (or Mapbox GL...) style<br>
* Overpass query 101 (or querying an osm2pgsql database with Postgres)<br>
* public transport mapping with JOSM<br>
* generating high quality print maps with <toolchain><br>
* creating a small Osmand based Android App<br>
<br>
Workshop topics are often topcis that would be rather boring as a<br>
regular talk - e.g. "writing a carto CSS style" is just not novel enough<br>
for a talk, but a sought-after skill for a workshop.<br>
<br>
Good expectation setting for attendees and teachers is a must; for a<br>
good workshop I would expect to see something like "attendees are<br>
required to bring notebook with <operating system> and <minimum<br>
requirements>", and the workshop would have to be held in a proper<br>
classroom with tables. (Or, the workshop could be in a classroom where<br>
there's a computer that can be booted with an OSGeo Live DVD or something.)<br>
<br>
The German FOSSGIS conference covers a significant portion of costs by<br>
charging about EUR 100 per workshop, and the workshops are mainly<br>
frequented by "professional" visitors - the open source and mapping<br>
hobbyists among the conference-goers don't usually need someone to<br>
explain things to them so they're not negatively affected by the<br>
conference charging for workshops; actually the income is used to<br>
provide free tickets for open source/open data contributors.<br>
<br>
I realize this differs a lot from what SOTM has been doing and I'm not<br>
saying it is where SOTM should go, but if you have the flexibility, why<br>
not try it out - perhaps select two or three "hot" topics and offer<br>
"premium workshops" on them that cost money, to see how well the offer<br>
is received.<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Frederik<br>
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Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a> ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<br>
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</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Best regards,</div><div style="font-size:small">Dmitry</div></div></div></div></div>
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