<div>During my time at MapQuest, when we kicked off our OSM project and during the project, we did not pay membership fees or to attempt to sway folks to vote a certain way (or any way). However, we (MapQuest) did provide free beer and pizza to those folks that came to our map-a-thons and other teaching OSM events.</div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Voting "recommendations" by employers (straw poll)<br />From: "Paul Norman" <paul.norman@osmfoundation.org><br />Date: 11/1/18 4:12 pm<br />To: osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org<br /><br />I have also heard confidential reports similar to what Frederik has, and <br /> they worry me greatly.<br /> <br /> On 2018-11-01 1:03 PM, nebulon42 wrote:<br /> > I think asking your fellow board members e.g. Mikel, Martijn and Paul<br /> > who have worked or work for companies involved in OSM might give you<br /> > first-hand answers, if they would have any and would tell you.<br /> <br /> When I first ran for the board I was at MapQuest, management didn't show <br /> a great interest in how OSM was run or the OSMF, so my experience isn't <br /> relevant to how companies which take an interest in how the OSMF is run. <br /> I know some companies allow people to work on OSMF work on company time <br /> or claim expenses incurred doing OSMF work, but I've never been at one <br /> of those.<br /> <br /> At MapQuest, there was no program I was aware of during my time there to <br /> get people to become OSMF members, to pay their membership fee, or to <br /> get them to vote a certain way. There may have been a program that <br /> allowed general membership fees to organizations to be reimbursed, but I <br /> never looked into it.<br /> <br /> As a self-employed freelancer, I could claim membership fees on my <br /> taxes, but don't think I have done so.<br /> <br /> > I think "suggestions" from employers have a smell and should be avoided<br /> > since you are in a dependent relationship to your employer and are more<br /> > likely to follow the suggestion.<br /> ><br /> > I have nothing against encouraging people to become OSMF members, but<br /> > paying their fee is wrong even more so because of the dependent<br /> > relationship (see above) and there should be a rule that forbids this.<br /> <br /> In the past, the OSMF has rejected membership in a case where someone <br /> paid for the membership of a couple people to have them run for board. <br /> There was also the Skobbler case where a bunch of employees signed up <br /> right before an election, and their memberships were held back until <br /> after the election.<br /> <br /> My first response to hearing of companies encouraging people to sign up, <br /> pay for their memberships, and have them vote a particular way is "this <br /> can't be legal." Without reviewing the law or asking a lawyer, I don't <br /> know if it's legal, but I think it's wrong.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________________<br /> osmf-talk mailing list<br /> osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org<br /> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</div>
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