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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>The MWG believes this problem was solved in June. If you can identify any specific email addresses, we’re happy to investigate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mikel Maron <mikel.maron@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2018 12:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org; michael spreng <osmf@m.spreng.ch><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] Membership fee waiver<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Michael -- it might worth checking if all the problems with notifications are still solved. I anecdotally heard from several people that they, more recently, didn't get reminders when their membership was expiring. They may have missed a notice in their mail, but it also seems possible they never received a notice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-Mikel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_2949735378"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Friday, November 16, 2018, 3:31:09 PM EST, michael spreng <<a href="mailto:osmf@m.spreng.ch">osmf@m.spreng.ch</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Hi<br><br>The Problem with the reminders was resolved this summer. See<br><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/MWG_2018-09-24#CiviCRM_mail_problem" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/MWG_2018-09-24#CiviCRM_mail_problem</a><br>But yes we sometimes have problems with civiCRM. And we would like to<br>implement a member self service area. So the bottom line holds, we are<br>grateful for volunteers with experience.<br><br>Michael<br><br>On 16/11/2018 00:55, John Whelan wrote:<br>> It would seem that they could do with a bit of assistance from someone<br>> who knows civicrm. There was mention of it wasn't reliably sending out<br>> reminders for paypal for a start.<br>> <br>> Cheerio John<br>> <br>> Rob Nickerson wrote on 2018-11-15 6:05 PM:<br>>> >What's taken so long is a lack of people stepping forward to help.<br>>><br>>> Hi Paul,<br>>><br>>> Can you please explain what help is needed as I am struggling to<br>>> understand. I have experience of the membership system (civicrm) used<br>>> by OSMF: (1) because I used it when helping SotM, and (2) because I<br>>> set a civicrm up for the OSM UK local chapter.<br>>><br>>> For the waiver program:<br>>> Within civicrm you can bulk add members by importing a spreadsheet.<br>>> This could be a monthly task to keep workload to a minimum.<br>>><br>>> For fee paying members:<br>>> In civicrm it is now possible to allow members to select automatic<br>>> renewal. We did this on the OSM UK local chapter and it's great. No<br>>> chasing people to renew as civicrm and PayPal sort it automatic.<br>>> Members can cancel the renewal anytime by logging in to their PayPal<br>>> account.<br>>><br>>> I hope this helps :-)<br>>><br>>> Thank you,<br>>> Rob<br>>><br>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 20:29 Paul Norman <<a href="mailto:paul.norman@osmfoundation.org">paul.norman@osmfoundation.org</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:paul.norman@osmfoundation.org">paul.norman@osmfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> On 2018-11-15 8:25 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:<br>>> > A simple solution not relying on a complex application process would<br>>> > also help reducing the workload for the MWG.<br>>><br>>> The only complicated part of the process is what to say if someone<br>>> incorrectly fills out the form. If everything works correctly all<br>>> that's<br>>> involved is submit the form, MWG messages account to verify it's<br>>> them,<br>>> MWG enters it into CiviCRM similar to a bank transfer membership, MWG<br>>> notifies the person of acceptance.<br>>><br>>> What's taken so long is a lack of people stepping forward to help.<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> osmf-talk mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> osmf-talk mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br>> <br>> -- <br>> Sent from Postbox<br>> <<a href="https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach" target="_blank">https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yqtfd11703><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> osmf-talk mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>osmf-talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>