<div dir="auto">Fredrick, I'll second humanitarian projects being at the core of OSMF activities. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many of us have gravitated towards HOT because OSMF had not sought to support this type of mapping in the past. HOT, at least when I was on the board, does not want to be the only group doing humanitarian focused mapping. The world is to big and HOT isn't the right tool all of the time. This is evident in the missing maps group that brought together many groups who are interested in doing OSM mapping. We don't compete against one another but rather strive to bring our resources each has to make things better. It's not perfect but we are constantly reevaluating that effort to make or mapping and projects better. Our collaborative approach has helped to foster and support emergent mapping communities in many places around the world. OSMF could be another great partner for this work if it chose to activily participate.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think a solid first step by OSMF would be to co-sponsor, with HOT, a funding drive for local community microgrants. This has been discussed in the HOT community as something we would like to see. This is not a new or novel idea and it would help to show local mapping communities they are supported by HOT and the larger OSM community.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 16, 2018 9:45 AM, "Frederik Ramm" <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<div class="quoted-text"><br>
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On 12/16/18 18:13, Simon Poole wrote:<br>
> If one tries to piece together the history of HOT, at least from an OSMF<br>
> point of view*, it is very clear that HOT was sold to the board by Mikel<br>
> at the time as ""our department" for humanitarian work". <br>
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Well - it is quite possible that, at the time, everyone was happy not to<br>
have to deal with humanitarian issues and that, at the time, it *was* a<br>
good idea to simply let folks run with it. Considering how big HOT has<br>
become, I'm quite happy that they're not an OSMF working group, or else<br>
we'd have a constant case of the tail wagging the dog ;)<br>
<br>
I don't envision the OSMF running huge aid projects. But it could<br>
probably work to reclaim the "general interest in humanitarian mapping"<br>
as a core OSM(F) activity, while leaving the concrete execution of<br>
projects to bodies like HOT. It all depends on people willing to do it.<div class="quoted-text"><br>
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> * I've done that mode than once, and always end up wondering what the<br>
> board was smoking at the time.<br>
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I can say with confidence that no smoking of anything has happened<br>
during the in-person board meetings that I was part of. (At least not<br>
while we were in session.)<br>
<br>
Bye<div class="signature-text"><br>
Frederik</div><div class="quoted-text"><br>
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