<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp264617eyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>> <span><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">My opinion is your communications on these email lists is more</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">> damaging to OSM and the community than any 100 folks signing up from</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">> the same company for whatever reason.</span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div>Blake, I appreciate you raising these points about how we communicate on osmf-talk. But it's unhelpful to prioritize one thing over another or point fingers in any particular direction. That's only going to enflame an already burning situation. Most urgent is handling the GL situation. </div><div><br></div><div>Longer term, we have a lot of work to do on our governance, how we conceive and organize membership, and how we gather views. Clearly we'd outgrown the governance model of 15 GBP sign up and a mailing list that we quickly put together in 2008. Figuring out what's next, after the immediate situation, is going to take a lot of work.</div><div>-Mikel</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp264617esignature">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Friday, February 1, 2019, 9:27:32 AM EST, Frederik Ramm <frederik@remote.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Hi,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 2/1/19 2:06 PM, Blake Girardot wrote:<br clear="none">> My opinion is your communications on these email lists is more<br clear="none">> damaging to OSM and the community than any 100 folks signing up from<br clear="none">> the same company for whatever reason.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That is a dangerously naive attitude, and I can only hope you've just<br clear="none">made that statement to be provocative and not because you really care<br clear="none">that little for the OSM Foundation and its members.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It only takes a few "100 folks" to replace the board with company<br clear="none">stooges, take ownership of the domain name and trademarks, suck the<br clear="none">whole thing dry for a few quick bucks from a taxi company, and discard<br clear="none">it as soon as more profit hails elsewhere.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I don't know which community you are talking of that would happily be<br clear="none">governed by whoever pays most but who feel repulsed at someone asking<br clear="none">pointy questions of those in power, but it certainly ain't any community<br clear="none">I ever want to be part of.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Bye<br clear="none">Ferderik<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org" href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a> ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<div class="yqt4711185771" id="yqtfd88451"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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