<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Mikel,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The best reaction when you disagree with something in the weekly is, I think, to post a response in your diary, then submit it at <a href="https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de" class="">https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de</a>. Often, there’s just nothing to link to for whatever “the other side” is.<br class=""><br class="">I haven’t experienced or seen defensive responses from the Weekly crowd. What did you write to them? Could it have been read as criticism or tone policing?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Guillaume</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Feb 2019, at 16:39, Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" class="">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydpbc00c096yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div style="" class=""><div style="" class=""><p style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text" style=""><font size="3" class=""><span class="ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_ ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_30 ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-30" style="">> weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz generally refrains from personal opinions and political statements. <span class="ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_ ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_31 ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-31" style="">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz also has an attitude that can also be expressed in the text.</font></span></p></div><div style="" class=""><font size="3" class="">Can WeeklyOSM explain its "attitude"? I often find myself reading WeeklyOSM items scratching my head over how it doesn't represent a few people's personal opinions and priorities, especially when it comes to OSMF topics. </font></div><div style="" class=""><font size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="" class=""><font size="3" class="">Also, what is the best way for us to point out issues with WeeklyOSM? I think WeeklyOSM is a great resource, but everything we do can be better right? When I've pointed things out in the past, the response has been a bit defensive.</font></div><div style="" class=""><font size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="" class=""><font size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="ydpbc00c096signature" style="font-size: 16px;">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Thursday, February 14, 2019, 6:46:40 AM PST, Manfred A. Reiter <<a href="mailto:ma.reiter@gmail.com" class="">ma.reiter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="yiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.02.19 um 01:10 <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr_26 yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear" id="yiv8932167436gmail-26">schrieb</span> Lukasz Kruk:<br clear="none" class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hello,<div class=""><br clear="none" class="">
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<div class="">Just as an idea, I think an absolutely fantastic regular update on OSM things is the Weekly blog (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.weeklyosm.eu/" class="">http://www.weeklyosm.eu/</a>).
I'm not sure who manages it and if it has any formal affiliation with
OSMF (the about links send me to some seemingly unrelated websites), but
it does a wonderful job of summarising discussions, technical tips,
news, and a lot of other things about OSM.</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><p class=""><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text">Thank you very much for your evaluation of our work. </span></p></div><div class=""></div><blockquote class="yiv8932167436gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-im"> </span><blockquote type="cite" class="">
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<div class="">It's exactly the type of a regular update that I think a <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-only-ins yiv8932167436gmail-replaceWithoutSep yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-gr_gramm yiv8932167436gmail-gr_run_anim yiv8932167436gmail-Grammar yiv8932167436gmail-gr_35 yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards" id="yiv8932167436gmail-35">lot</span>
people who express increasing interest in OSM by joining OSMF would be
interested in. Perhaps its contents could be disseminated through a
mailing list with <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-gr_27 yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv8932167436gmail-27">autosubscription</span> for new OSMF members?</div>
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</blockquote><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="">We offer such a service ... see it on our website: "Subscribe to <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-gr_28 yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv8932167436gmail-28">weeklyOSM</span> via Email"</p></div></div></div></div><blockquote class="yiv8932167436gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">[...]</div><div dir="ltr" class=""> </div><div dir="ltr" class="">FYI <br clear="none" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text"><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-ins-del yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_29" id="yiv8932167436gmail-29">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz
is independent of all organizations and companies. This applies to the
OSMF, HOT, FOSSGIS, local chapters ... and all <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-gr_40 yiv8932167436gmail-gr_run_anim yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards" id="yiv8932167436gmail-40">organisations</span> and/or companies (not listed here). ;-)<br clear="none" class="">
</span><p class=""><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text">We
see ourselves as a service of the community for the community. Therefore
the "about link" also leads to some independent websites. <br clear="none" class="">
</span></p><p class=""><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text"><span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_30 yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv8932167436gmail-30">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz generally refrains from personal opinions and political statements. <span class="yiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv8932167436gmail-gr_31 yiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv8932167436gmail-31">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz also has an attitude that can also be expressed in the text.</span></p><p class="">cheers,</p><p class="">[...]<br clear="none" class=""></p><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div>-- <br clear="none" class=""><div class="yiv8932167436gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">## Manfred<br clear="none" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.weeklyosm.eu/" class="">www.weeklyOSM.eu</a></div><div dir="ltr" class="">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM" class="">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM</a></div><div dir="ltr" class="">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM/Saarburg" class="">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM/Saarburg</a><div class="yiv8932167436yqt9880614468" id="yiv8932167436yqtfd43402"><br clear="none" class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt9880614468" id="yqtfd56765">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none" class=""><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none" class=""><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none" class=""></div></div>
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