<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp64e09298yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>Oh yea I found it <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-November/079613.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-November/079613.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>This sparked a long thread. Somewhere along the line I was accused of having received a "leak" (can't find this message) of the actual edit process inside WeeklyOSM. Which is silly. </div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I'm not worried about WeeklyOSM. We all agree it has a point of view, and that was the only point of my question. That's what I'll make sure people know when I recommend they read it. Because it's a pretty valuable resource.</div><div><br></div><div>Rather than a diary, another idea I have is to start a derivative version of WeeklyOSM, with all the stuff that annoys me edited out. Call it "WeeklyOSM Executive Edition" :P</div><div><br></div><div>-Mikel</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp64e09298signature">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 8:43:40 AM EST, Guillaume Rischard <openstreetmap@stereo.lu> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv5224388772"><div><div class="yiv5224388772">Hi Mikel,</div><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772">The best reaction when you disagree with something in the weekly is, I think, to post a response in your diary, then submit it at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de">https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de</a>. Often, there’s just nothing to link to for whatever “the other side” is.<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772">I haven’t experienced or seen defensive responses from the Weekly crowd. What did you write to them? Could it have been read as criticism or tone policing?</div><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772">Cheers,</div><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772">Guillaume</div><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><blockquote class="yiv5224388772" type="cite"><div class="yiv5224388772yqt9946840702" id="yiv5224388772yqt07553"><div class="yiv5224388772">On 18 Feb 2019, at 16:39, Mikel Maron <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" ymailto="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772ydpbc00c096yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><p class="yiv5224388772" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3"><span class="yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_30 yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-30" style="">> weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz generally refrains from personal opinions and political statements. <span class="yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_31 yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772ydp2455c0eeyiv8932167436gmail-31" style="">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz also has an attitude that can also be expressed in the text.</font></span></p></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3">Can WeeklyOSM explain its "attitude"? I often find myself reading WeeklyOSM items scratching my head over how it doesn't represent a few people's personal opinions and priorities, especially when it comes to OSMF topics. </font></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></font></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3">Also, what is the best way for us to point out issues with WeeklyOSM? I think WeeklyOSM is a great resource, but everything we do can be better right? When I've pointed things out in the past, the response has been a bit defensive.</font></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></font></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style=""><font class="yiv5224388772" size="3"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></font></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style="font-size:16px;"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772" style="font-size:16px;"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772ydpbc00c096signature" style="font-size:16px;">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Thursday, February 14, 2019, 6:46:40 AM PST, Manfred A. Reiter <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" ymailto="mailto:ma.reiter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ma.reiter@gmail.com">ma.reiter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" id="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772gmail_quote"><p class="yiv5224388772">Hi Lukasz, <br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772">
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<div class="yiv5224388772gmail-m_-6411840389215534141moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.02.19 um 01:10 <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr_26 yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear" id="yiv5224388772gmail-26">schrieb</span> Lukasz Kruk:<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772">
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<div class="yiv5224388772">Just as an idea, I think an absolutely fantastic regular update on OSM things is the Weekly blog (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="http://www.weeklyosm.eu/">http://www.weeklyosm.eu/</a>).
I'm not sure who manages it and if it has any formal affiliation with
OSMF (the about links send me to some seemingly unrelated websites), but
it does a wonderful job of summarising discussions, technical tips,
news, and a lot of other things about OSM.</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="yiv5224388772"><p class="yiv5224388772"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text">Thank you very much for your evaluation of our work. </span></p></div><div class="yiv5224388772"></div><blockquote class="yiv5224388772gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-im"> </span><blockquote class="yiv5224388772" type="cite">
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<div class="yiv5224388772">It's exactly the type of a regular update that I think a <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-only-ins yiv5224388772gmail-replaceWithoutSep yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-gr_gramm yiv5224388772gmail-gr_run_anim yiv5224388772gmail-Grammar yiv5224388772gmail-gr_35 yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards" id="yiv5224388772gmail-35">lot</span>
people who express increasing interest in OSM by joining OSMF would be
interested in. Perhaps its contents could be disseminated through a
mailing list with <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-gr_27 yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772gmail-27">autosubscription</span> for new OSMF members?</div>
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</blockquote><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><p class="yiv5224388772">We offer such a service ... see it on our website: "Subscribe to <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-gr_28 yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772gmail-28">weeklyOSM</span> via Email"</p></div></div></div></div><blockquote class="yiv5224388772gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="yiv5224388772">[...]</div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr">FYI <br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-ins-del yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_29" id="yiv5224388772gmail-29">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz
is independent of all organizations and companies. This applies to the
OSMF, HOT, FOSSGIS, local chapters ... and all <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-gr_40 yiv5224388772gmail-gr_run_anim yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards" id="yiv5224388772gmail-40">organisations</span> and/or companies (not listed here). ;-)<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772">
</span><p class="yiv5224388772"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text">We
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</span></p><p class="yiv5224388772"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-m_-6411840389215534141post-message__text"><span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_30 yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772gmail-30">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz generally refrains from personal opinions and political statements. <span class="yiv5224388772gmail-gr_spell yiv5224388772gmail-gr_31 yiv5224388772gmail-ContextualSpelling yiv5224388772gmail-gr_ yiv5224388772gmail-gr-alert yiv5224388772gmail-multiReplace yiv5224388772gmail-gr_inline_cards yiv5224388772gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear yiv5224388772gmail-ins-del" id="yiv5224388772gmail-31">weeklyOSM</span>/Wochennotiz also has an attitude that can also be expressed in the text.</span></p><p class="yiv5224388772">cheers,</p><p class="yiv5224388772">[...]<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></p><div class="yiv5224388772"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div>-- <br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr">## Manfred<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5224388772"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr"></div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="http://www.weeklyosm.eu/">www.weeklyOSM.eu</a></div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM</a></div><div class="yiv5224388772" dir="ltr">## <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM/Saarburg">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EuYoutH_OSM/Saarburg</a><div class="yiv5224388772yqt9880614468" id="yiv5224388772yqtfd43402"><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv5224388772yqt9880614468" id="yiv5224388772yqtfd56765">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772">osmf-talk mailing list<br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv5224388772" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br clear="none" class="yiv5224388772"></div></div>
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