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<p>Hello, <br>
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<p>is there no option to host own vector tile service? <br>
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<p>Like described in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://info.crunchydata.com/blog/dynamic-vector-tiles-from-postgis">https://info.crunchydata.com/blog/dynamic-vector-tiles-from-postgis</a>
? <br>
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<p>Or am I missing something? <br>
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<p>Radoje<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14.07.19 17:33, Jaak Laineste wrote:<br>
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Hello,
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<div class="">Is there full data schema documentation for the
tiles, and what is license terms for this, and for the styling
definitions? Something like OMT has here: <a
href="https://openmaptiles.org/schema/" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://openmaptiles.org/schema/</a>?
Some companies (e.g. Mapbox) prefer to keep these as internal
IP, so the vector tiles could be there, but they work in their
own tools only. </div>
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<div class="">The low level MVT format is Mapbox original one, or
with some extensions?</div>
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<div class="">Jaak </div>
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<div class="">On 14 Jul 2019, at 16:02, Darafei Komяpa
Praliaskouski <<a href="mailto:me@komzpa.net" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">me@komzpa.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">ESRI is the first tiles that recreate OSM
Standard look in vector, that is why it's more
relevant. Given that ESRI is a gold corporate member
of OSM Foundation, it may happen it chooses to donate
rendering stack to the community, so we can get this
next technological leap.<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019
at 1:32 PM Milo van der Linden <<a
href="mailto:milo@dogodigi.net" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milo@dogodigi.net</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">I agree on the vector tiles, I do
however think esri is getting to much credit when
we say we are going to use their vector tiles.
Mapnik tried to pioneer this field, followed by
Mapbox, then the openmaptiles initiative started
too and when esri saw the potential, they hopped
on the wagon as well. It is my hope that the
openstreetmap community, when moving to vector
tiles, will adapt the most open standard
available.<br class="">
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</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_tiles"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_tiles</a>
<a href="https://openmaptiles.org/about/"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://openmaptiles.org/about/</a> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op zo 14 jul. 2019
om 10:20 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev <<a
href="mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch</a>>:<br
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class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">The
real advantage and promise of the vector tiles
approach is the possibility to select a
language of the map. I did not find this
feature on the ESRI map.<br class="">
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class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix"><br
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<div
class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">Langue
selection would end the "language editing
wars", it would also make the map practicable
for tourists. For example, one wants the map
of Beijing in, say, Spanish, - here you are,
select the Spanish language in the drop-down
list. But for this to work the tag:
name:es=Pekín should be present in the OSM
database. <br class="">
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<div
class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">The
geographical names differ even in
linguistically close languages. And it should
be reflected in the OSM database for the
language selection to work well. I mean there
should be a big preparation process on the
database editing (mapping) side.<br class="">
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<div
class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">One
more consideration, - the client side
rendering sounds like there is one client. But
in fact it means rendering in a browser, or
even more correctly in a rendering engine of a
browser [1]. Rendering engines, or for
simplification JavaScript engines, are
developed by web browser vendors, and they
differ here and there not only between
vendors, but between newer and older versions,
and between operating systems too. There are
quite a few browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Opera,
Safari, Internet Explorer, and so on. <br
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<div
class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">It
means that our vector layer should work not in
one or two, but in all of them, on all
operating systems. What is not a trivial task
at all, since client side rendering depends
even more on multiple ever-changing browsers,
as opposite to the current server side
rendering, where all the heavy lifting is done
on a single server, which is under control of
the OSM community.<br class="">
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<a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript_engine" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript_engine</a></div>
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<div
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regards,</div>
<div
class="gmail-m_5536360761303903482gmail-m_6886730503242314128gmail-m_-7960147949062858759moz-cite-prefix">Oleksiy
(Alex-7 @ OSM)<br class="">
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7/14/19 00:50, Clifford Snow wrote:<br
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at 12:34 PM Milo van der Linden <<a
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<div class="">Is there an invasion of
esri fans?</div>
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<div class="">I don't think its so much
being an ESRI fan but more the hope that
we migrate to vector tiles for <a
href="http://osm.org/" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">osm.org</a>.
ESRI is just showing us that it can be
done. Vector tiles can bring a lot of
power and customization to the <a
href="http://osm.org/" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">osm.org</a>
site. However, getting to vector tiles
will take a concentrated effort from a
group of volunteers. </div>
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<div class="">(While I have a strong
desire that <a href="http://osm.org/"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">osm.org</a> be
running vector tiles, I don't have the
skills.)</div>
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<div class="">What we can do is</div>
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<div class="">1. call for volunteers that
are willing to do the hard work</div>
<div class="">2. give guidance to the
volunteers</div>
<div class="">3. provide systems resources
to enable them to develop and test<br
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