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<p>I believe 3., 4. and 5. are clear enough on what permitted and
not-permitted use of the marks are. <br>
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<p>From the allowed uses without a specific licence only 3.1
actually refers to community members, and if HOT, Amazon, FB or
whoever wants to organize an OSM centric event I see no reason for
them not to be able to use the marks to promote the event.</p>
<p>Yes, there is an issue with the narrative about OSM being
hijacked, but this is a PR and marketing issue (and mainly caused
by the OSMF itself), not a legal one, not even one that could be
fixed with legal means if we wanted to.</p>
<p>Simon<br>
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<div>We've had a number that when pointed to the policy have
not applied (which is what one would expect), iirc we
haven't had somebody apply and formally not be granted
permission.
<p>But all that is not very surprising, as with the
notable exceptions of domain names and events (aka
SotM), most common community use of the marks is already
covered and allowed by the terms in the policy and there
is no need to apply formally. As it should be.</p>
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<div>Simon, thank you for the clarification. If I understand the
policy correctly, everybody "who contributes to an OSM project
in order to support OpenStreetMap’s mission." is considered a
community member. I could not find a definition for "OSM
project", but looking at the wording, it seems there are
several of them (i.e. this is not "the one and only OSM
project", but one of several OSM projects), can someone please
explain how this is intended to be read? For example are the
Apple OSM team, or the Facebook OSM team, or Amazon's OSM team
(names of these groups are "made up" by me and not to be taken
literally) considered "community members"? <br>
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<div>There could also be other cases, which once have started as
a community effort, but with the time have detached more and
more from the OSM community and could now be considered a
closed group disconnected from the OSM community. <br>
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<div>I am also not sure how to interpret the term "contribute
... in order to support OSM's mission". Is using OSM data and
attributing it to OSM, already "contributing in order to
support the OSM mission" (if a prominent user does it, e.g. a
media outlet, I would say yes), maybe the case of only using
the data could still be debatable, but for sure, if they would
be adding data, a contribution could not be denied? So it may
be hard for anybody to qualify as an "unrelated organization
or individual", because as soon as you make an edit you (and
your organization) are forever a community member? Am I
misreading this?<br>
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<div>Martin<br>
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