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<p>BTW a potential tweak to the wording (caveat: not discussed with
anybody) that would perhaps make the multiple data sources
scenario work a bit better is to change the current <br>
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<p>Which would require on map attribution not only for the 50% and
more case, but also for any case in which the majority of the
visible data is from OSM. It does break down a bit when there are
numerous small data sources of very similar size. Naturally one
can argue about what "largest" means in the context which however
applies to the suggested 50% rule too.<br>
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<p>Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.09.2019 um 16:38 schrieb Simon
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<p>I don't quite follow your argument here. According to the draft
guideline if a majority of the data displayed is derived from
OSM, then attribution needs to be displayed on map. So assuming
that the prerequisite is met, as you are saying, the draft
guideline would require exactly what you want.</p>
<p>The -other- problem with the site is that it is implying a
partnership which doesn't exist. Something which we clearly
don't want for commercial law and liability reasons, given the
wording of the ODbL I doubt that we can base such a requirement
on the licence (but likely on use of our trademarks).<br>
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<p>Simon</p>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Here's
another example of why we should not adopt the multiple
sources attribution omission of our attribution. They list
us as partners (?)</span>
<div style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px" dir="auto"><a
href="https://www.wrld3d.com/3d-maps/custom-maps"
target="_blank" style="font-size:1rem"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.wrld3d.com/3d-maps/custom-maps</a></div>
<div dir="auto"
style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Use
multiple sources and are not complying with ODbL by not
showing the license.</div>
<div dir="auto"
style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Seen
multiple maps by their clients and they show data "copyright
l.map"</div>
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<div dir="auto"
style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">I
have confirmed with multiple contributors that largely the
data used is OSM and it's around a year old dump of the
planet.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Simon Poole <<a
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escreveu em sex, 9/08/2019 às 08:45 :<br>
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mentioned multiple times over the last months, the LWG
decided<br>
last year to consolidate all attribution guidance in to
one document and<br>
address some of the use cases that have become common over
the last 7<br>
years that previously had none. Particularly in the light
of the<br>
parallel discussions about attribution on larger social
media platforms<br>
we need to make up our minds what we actually want, and
define concrete<br>
minimum requirements for acceptable attribution. To not do
this just<br>
provides the excuse of pointing to the cacophony of voices
all saying<br>
something different. <br>
<br>
We've been working on and off on the document for a while,
and are now<br>
largely finished. Going forward we intend to wikify the
document and<br>
make it available for public comment together with a BoF
session at SotM<br>
next month (which probably means that we'll have to
appropriate a coffee<br>
break). You can have a glimpse at the text here<br>
<a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e_IQYHtqVivGRw4O4EOn6__-LGMuzPlWz6XKEdAkwW0/edit?usp=sharing"
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the few things that are not nailed down belong to those
that we would<br>
appreciate feedback on.<br>
<br>
Simon<br>
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PS: the number of coffee breaks permitting we might want
to appropriate<br>
another one for the discussion of a tile licence change.<br>
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