<div dir="auto">If OSM does not pay its board members, they are by definition volunteers. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Speaking for myself, I cannot guarantee that in retirement I can afford on a government pension to pay out of pocket to attend SOTM conferences. The one thing I can offer is my time, on a voluntary basis.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">cheers,</div><div dir="auto">apm</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 7:07 PM Steve Coast <<a href="mailto:steve@stevecoast.com">steve@stevecoast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="direction:ltr">I’m confused why you think all board members are volunteers? That feels like a convenient fiction.</div>
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<div id="m_7237087966212943177divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Jorden Verwer <jorden@verwer.express><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 23, 2019 11:52:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Coast <<a href="mailto:steve@stevecoast.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steve@stevecoast.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] SOTM Africa</font>
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<div>Hello Steve,<br>
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It's good to hear that you had a nice time in Ivory Coast and that SOTM <br>
Africa appears to have been a success. For me, as a passive OSMF member <br>
who only attended SOTM once and rarely participates in discussions <br>
outside of the AGM, I can only respect people who spend way more time on <br>
OSM than I do - and that obviously includes you. I also think it's <br>
generally a good idea for as many board members as possible to attend <br>
SOTM conferences.<br>
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What I'm not so sure I agree with you on is your proposal to make <br>
attendance of at least one OSMF board member mandatory. The board <br>
consists of volunteers, and for any board member there can be very valid <br>
reasons why they can't or won't attend. As a consequence, this may apply <br>
to all board members simultaneously in some situations. What would the <br>
effect of your proposal be in such a situation? Can the planned SOTM <br>
conference not take place then and there? Will the board be penalized? <br>
Neither option seems to be all that desirable, so instead I'd propose <br>
that OSMF board member attendance be highly recommended, but not <br>
required.<br>
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Oh, and I should probably not get involved in this, so against my better <br>
judgment I'll quote the page Christoph linked to:<br>
"We expect this to be the official election campaign process. We won't <br>
restrict members to continue to talk on our members' mailing list nor <br>
will we restrict candidates to continue discussions, but we don't <br>
encourage them to do so. The official answers and questions thereof <br>
should be what voters use to judge."<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Jorden<br>
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