<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp25adc82byahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">> Do you agree with my statement or description of CoI/potential CoI? </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I'm not sure I understand this definition of potential CoI. Couldn't this widen out to just about any issue under the sun? Or put another way, how does it practically differ from plain old CoI? And do how we determine the "interests" of OSMF and another organization? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">> How would you cope with a CoI? How with a potential CoI?<br><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Declare it to the Board when it possibly arises, and decide with the Board how to handle it.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">> Especially will you take part in discussions? Share arguments,...? Public only? Private? </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Depends on the situation. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">By default, it's not always a problem to take part in discussions where a CoI is present. I do think it's fair that key points are made public, if it's part of a Board internal discussion.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Some discussions should clearly mean recusal. For instance, if Board was deliberating on awarding a contract, and a Board member had interest in a bid.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">> Will you participate in votes? </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">No.</div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">> Will you make your CoI public? Will you make a potential </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">CoI public?</span></div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Yes. Should be noted in relevant agenda items.</div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">More thoughts on CoI...</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">We really need to finalize a written policy on Conflict of Interest. Then we aren't relying on "common sense", and it's clear to all of us what constitutes a CoI, and how we handle it. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">This is what the Companies Act says about Conflict of Interest</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><a href="https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/175" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/175</a></span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">At the moment, we have only this line in the Board rules of order</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Rules_of_Order" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Rules_of_Order</a></span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;">"When a board member would be influenced by a conflict of interest with respect to a decision, they will recuse themselves from voting."</span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;">We've discussed on the Board, I think the most recent was:</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(30, 32, 33); font-family: osmftext, sans-serif; font-size: 16.52px;"><span><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2017-09-21#Written_conflict_of_interest_policy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2017-09-21#Written_conflict_of_interest_policy</a></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Myself personally, I work at Mapbox and have a Trustee position with Map Kibera. This does mean CoI is possible. One notable occurrence was with the organised editing guidelines, and I recused from voting.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I do spend time on OSMF stuff at work. It's at my choosing, my time is self directed. This is done without any direction or expectations by anyone.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-Mikel</div></div><div><br></div><div class="ydp25adc82bsignature">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div></div>
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On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 06:11:55 PM EST, Peter Barth <osm@won2.de> wrote:
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<div>Hello candidates,<br><br>I read through most of the questions and statements and I have a<br>few follow-up questions, especially in the topic of CoIs which<br>has a high significance for me.<br><br>My definition of a potential conflict of interest:<br>A potential conflict of interests arises, if there is a topic at<br>board level where the interests of the OSM project and your<br>employer *might* differ.<br><br>I pay tribute to anyone who's able to put the project up-front<br>other interests and I won't insinuate for any candidate that you<br>wouldn't be able to do so.<br><br>It is good if you can distinguish between OSM's view and your<br>employer's view. It is better if there is no possibility to<br>ask the question "is this your opinion or your employer's".<br><br>Imho, even a *potential* CoI should always lead to you stating<br>your CoI, making your input/comments public and abstaining from<br>voting.<br><br>Do you agree with my statement or description of CoI/potential<br>CoI? How would you cope with a CoI? How with a potential CoI?<br>Especially will you take part in discussions? Share<br>arguments,...? Public only? Private? Will you participate in<br>votes? Will you make your CoI public? Will you make a potential<br>CoI public?<br><br>I am specifically interested to hear an opinion of anyone<br>directly or indirectly working for or with OSM or GIS data.<br><br><br>Further, I have some more specific questions for Steve that I am <br>interested in:<br><br>1. What is wrong with the current petition regarding term limits?<br><br>2. How many board meetings did you attend within the last three<br>years? And what was the painful part in those?<br><br>3. To help me scope your concern: What percentage of OSM tiles<br>are served to third parties today?<br><br>4. Do you know why OWG is kept short on budget and did you talk<br>with them if and how they could use that extra money?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Peda<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>osmf-talk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br></div>
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