<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Christoph,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This isn’t the first mention of this. I added adapting and adopting the Python statement on the board meeting agenda three weeks ago:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board/Minutes/2020-01&diff=6701&oldid=6677" class="">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board/Minutes/2020-01&diff=6701&oldid=6677</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There was not only Manfred’s diary, but also the discussion at <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_mustard/status/1212072904353107971" class="">https://twitter.com/allan_mustard/status/1212072904353107971</a> and a diary by Mikel.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s also a statement of values, not the final word. You’ve seen my other email on the special committee we want to create, and I’m sure you’ll agree with the call for a fact-based approach in the proposal. Specifically, we say that the statement can be updated.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that you will join the special committee and help us out on this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Guillaume<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30 Jan 2020, at 16:56, Christoph Hormann <<a href="mailto:chris_hormann@gmx.de" class="">chris_hormann@gmx.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On Thursday 30 January 2020, Guillaume Rischard wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><a href="https://gist.github.com/grischard/53e4e9defebe7912f3aab9c0d2d1b55a" class="">https://gist.github.com/grischard/53e4e9defebe7912f3aab9c0d2d1b55a</a> is<br class="">the diversity statement I’ll propose for the OSMF tonight. It is an<br class="">adapted version of the Python Software Foundation’s statement, which<br class="">they have very generously allowed us to use.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Ich werde jetzt hier weniger als zwei Stunden vor der Vorstandssitzung <br class="">(!!!) keine inhaltliche Diskussion dazu beginnen, denn diese ließe sich <br class="">in diesem Zeitraum niemals in einer angemessenen Tiefe führen.<br class=""><br class="">Deshalb nur der kurze Kommentar dazu, dass wenn irgendjemand glaubt, <br class="">dass der verlinkte Text eine harmlose und unkritische Bekundung eines <br class="">im Grunde selbstverständlichen Standpunktes darstellt, er oder sie <br class="">damit nicht falscher liegen könnte.<br class=""><br class="">Wie ich in letzter Zeit mehrfach wiederholt habe [1] wäre ich jederzeit <br class="">(und seit Jahren) hocherfreut über eine sachliche und ergebnisoffene <br class="">Diskussion zu diesem Thema. Wenn sich der OSMF-Vorstand aktiv in eine <br class="">derartige Diskussion einbringt umso besser. Eine solche Diskussion <br class="">kann aber nur funktionieren, wenn alle Beteiligten bereit sind, ihre <br class="">Standpunkte zum Thema kritisch zu hinterfragen und über grundsätzlich <br class="">andere Sichtweisen nachzudenken.<br class=""><br class="">Der Vorstand steht also gewissermaßen vor der Wahl, ob man eine offene <br class="">Diskussion mit der OSM-Community in ihrer gesamten derzeit real <br class="">existierenden Vielfalt zum Thema Gemeinsamkeiten und Unterschiede in <br class="">grundlegenden Werten und dem Umgang damit führen möchte, oder ob man <br class="">die Diskussion innerhalb der OSMF dazu mit einer bestimmten <br class="">Positionierung beenden möchte und darauf drängt, dass Diskussionen, die <br class="">diese Position hinterfragen, in Zukunft bitte außerhalb der OSMF <br class="">geführt werden sollten.<br class=""><br class="">[1] <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/derFred/diary/391636#comment46172" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/derFred/diary/391636#comment46172</a><br class=""><br class="">----------------------<br class=""><br class="">Non-authoritive English translation from <a href="http://deepl.com" class="">deepl.com</a>:<br class=""><br class="">I am not going to start a discussion on the content of this less than <br class="">two hours before the board meeting (!!!), because it would never be <br class="">possible to have a discussion on the content in a reasonable depth <br class="">during this time.<br class=""><br class="">Therefore only a short comment on the fact that if anyone believes that <br class="">the linked text is a harmless and uncritical expression of a basically <br class="">self-evident point of view, he or she could not be more wrong.<br class=""><br class="">As I have repeated several times recently [1], I would be delighted at <br class="">any time (and for years) to have an objective and open-ended discussion <br class="">on this topic. If the OSMF board is actively involved in such a <br class="">discussion, so much the better. However, such a discussion can only <br class="">work if all participants are willing to critically question their <br class="">positions on the topic and think about fundamentally different points <br class="">of view.<br class=""><br class="">The Board of Directors is therefore faced with the choice of whether to <br class="">have an open discussion with the OSM community in all its current real <br class="">diversity on the topic of similarities and differences in fundamental <br class="">values and how to deal with them, or whether to end the discussion <br class="">within OSMF with a certain position and insist that discussions that <br class="">question this position should in future be held outside of OSMF.<br class=""><br class="">----------------------<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Christoph Hormann<br class=""><a href="http://www.imagico.de/" class="">http://www.imagico.de/</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">osmf-talk mailing list<br class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org<br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>