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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">That's true, but of
course if the OSM community is truly worried (as some members
have professed to me) about the risk of a stealth takeover of
the Foundation by corporate interests via the working groups,
this sort of requirement would seem both prudent and logical.
The Board would only contemplate such a rule for the WGs if the
community wanted it.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/2020 11:25 AM, Simon Poole
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.04.2020 um 15:18 schrieb Allan
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Is there any reason
the Board could not require that all WGs and committees
apply the conflict-of-interest rules once they are final?</font></p>
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<p>It is probably a qualified "no, no reason not to". Qualified
because I don't know what is actually in it, but assuming there
are no basic human rights violations enshrined in the policy and
it doesn't require anything against the law in the UK, the OSMF
is obviously free to askwhat ever it wants from WG members.
Naturally the WG members have the same right to just walk away.</p>
<p>Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/2020 5:45 AM, Joost Schouppe
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<div dir="auto">Hi Frederik,
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<div dir="auto">Thanks for the input, I'll make sure it's on
the agenda for the next (or a later) agenda.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The Board finally has a first draft of a CoI
procedure - it looked pretty close to a finished product
to me. I don't think it should be too much work to adapt
it to use in the Microgrants Committee.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op za 4 apr. 2020 11:33
schreef Frederik Ramm <<a
href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" moz-do-not-send="true">frederik@remote.org</a>>:<br>
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<br>
the microgrants group is going to be responsible for
disbursing quite an<br>
amount of money in the future; I think it would be
appropriate if - like<br>
OSMF board members - they were to list their affiliations
somewhere. For<br>
this role in particular I think it would be relevant to
know what, if<br>
any, relationship the group members have to existing
grant-giving bodies<br>
in the wider OSM sphere - are they or were they recently
/employed by/in<br>
a contractual relationship with/the recipient of funding
from/a member<br>
of/ groups like /HOT/the UN/MSF/Missing Maps/Red
Cross/Youth Mappers/ et<br>
cetera.<br>
<br>
I would also be interested in hearing if the group has
considered what a<br>
conflict of interest would be in the course of committee
work and how<br>
they would deal with that. For a (hypothetical) example,
if one of the<br>
team had been involved with a UN water sanitation project
in Kenya and<br>
then a proposal from a former fellow team member at that
water<br>
sanitation project comes in - would they then say "great,
our group<br>
member X know the applicant already and is in an ideal
position to judge<br>
this", or would they rather have that group member recuse
themselves?<br>
Either decision has its merits but it's good to think
about this before<br>
it arises.<br>
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As you know, the OSMF board has spent a lot of time in the
past circling<br>
that Conflict-of-Interest topic and never made a lot of
progress; it is<br>
not my intention to suck time away from the Microgrants
team by having<br>
them repeat that exercise, but CoI is hard even without a
EUR 200k bag<br>
of money in hand, and I'd urge people to at least consider
potential<br>
issues here.<br>
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Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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