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<p>I think there is a slight misunderstanding here.</p>
<p>The OSMF didn't grant any exclusive rights for a specific mark,
or combination of marks/words. Further the OSMF cannot and
shouldn't remotely aspire to be a replacement for the trademark
system and the courts (actually asking for that would lead any
sane person to come to the conclusion that we shouldn't allow use
of the marks in such scenarios at all). <br>
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<p>The only difference between Cesium and Jan, is that one asked
politely and the other didn't.</p>
<p>Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.06.2020 um 08:17 schrieb
Christopher Beddow:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I agree with Michael Reichert: there is a net
negative effect on granting permission to use the same "OSM
Buildings" name which serves to create confusion. In the future
when this term is mentioned people will need to clarify if
speaking about Jan's project or Cesium's product.
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<div dir="auto">I believe Cesium should be encouraged to use a
different name in order to reduce confusion but otherwise
appears to be a good intention. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I would say the same if any commercial OSM
related product adopted a name like Go Map (similar to mobile
app GoMap!!), or if someone created Cha OSM (similar to
OSMCha). This to me is not about licensing but about a
pragmatic way to keep things clear, by politely asking Cesium
to take steps to do so. This can effect things like search
engine optimization which caused Jan's project to be
overwhelmed by searched for a well advertised commercial
product, even if properly licensed, and would be unfortunate
for people seeking what he offers. </div>
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<div dir="auto">On the other hand, it is difficult to think of a
good alternative name because Jan's is so generic. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Chris Beddow</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 00:58
Kathleen Lu via osmf-talk <<a
href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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It is true that Jan does not have a license for "OSM
Buildings" either<br>
but granting licenses should not support name grabbing
and hostile<br>
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<div>This doesn't seem accurate. You describe "OSM
Buildings" as "an open source project". Assuming that
description is correct, then OSM Buildings does have a
license, under Section of the OSMF Trademark Policy:
<h4><span
id="m_2705712065181338346gmail-3.3.6._Use_in_software_projects">3.3.6.
Use in software projects</span></h4>
<p>Use of the OSM marks to name software components,
packages, minor tools, repositories and similar that
process or work specifically with OpenStreetMap data
is permissible as long as the use follows the rest of
this policy. </p>
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<div> <a
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#3.3.6._Use_in_software_projects"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#3.3.6._Use_in_software_projects</a>
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<div>If, on the other hand, "OSM Buildings" is a product
or business name, then Jan should have requested a
license when the Trademark Policy went into effect
(though nothing is stopping him from making the request
now). <br>
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<div>-Kathleen<br>
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