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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear
List,</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I am
on the side of the cautious with concerns about badly
implemented gamifying accidentally creating perverse
incentives that will amount to vandalism. Also, on a
personal note, I am old and have no real urge to return to
my Boy Scout youth when I strove for little cloth
achievement badges to sew onto my uniform. <br>
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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">But!
I can clearly see the point of increasing the reward of
mapping, especially for new mappers. If the way the reward
is created emphasises notability and quality rather than the
raw body count like a first person shooter then I can't see
that any harm will be done.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"> The
nice work on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hdyc.neis-one.org">http://hdyc.neis-one.org</a> that we are all
familiar with shows a number of measures of mapper
achievement which nobody seems to mind or regard as
threats. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I
look at it and I can see:</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"> I'm
#2 in Libya - wow! [Country Achiever Badge]<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I'm
#13 in Kosovo - Hmm? How did that happen? [Mystery Badge]
<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I can
see I just hit 800k changes. Wow! [800k Badge]<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I
have 5380 Osmose issues against my name :-( Ooops. Not doing
so well there. [Deeply Unhappy Badge]<br>
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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">So,
as a limited experiment, perhaps we can create some pretty
little badges, more like icons, based on the nice work that
Pascal has done, and using his data (please?) post them up
on the menu bar of the OSM website next to my name. After
"About" and before my little picture. They can be clickable
too. And then inside my profile page, if anyone cares to
look, we can place some larger versions of the same badges,
also clickable. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If we
do that we are accepting and testing the badges idea and I
think no harm will be done. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If we
want to get very sophisticated, do it randomly for only half
the users, then watch the stats for contributions in the
test group and compare with the stats for contributions in
the unmodified control group. If they are significantly
different (or not) we can draw some meaningful numerical
conclusions. I would love us to act in a rational
evidence-based way. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Expanding
the experiment to encouraging badge display in editor
software can follow...if we get positive results.<br>
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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">hth.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Craig
Allan</font></font></p>
<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
size="-2">OSM:cRaIgalLAn</font><br>
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<p><font size="-1"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">---o-O-o---<br>
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On 2020/10/18 17:13, Frederik Ramm wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi,
On 10/18/20 01:49, TheAdventurer64 wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">A user and I were talking about implementing a system for better
mapping, as described here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1602968516431900">https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1602968516431900</a>
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