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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I'm not sure that
framework fits, if you consider that the "FOSS Policy Committee"
has an ongoing remit to determine FOSS policy and promote FOSS
usage. Perhaps we should rename it the "FOSS Working Group" in
that case. To be honest, I had not thought of the committee vs.
Working Group structure through that prism.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Rather, I have lumped
the existing Working Groups and various extant
committees/special committees consisting mainly of non-board
members (and invariably chaired by someone other than a Board
member) into the category of *OSM* work (data quality control,
communications, membership, etc.) while the proposed "Board
committees" would deal with *OSMF* work: budgeting, raising
funds, and personnel management/contracting. As a long-time
government manager, I see a sharp demarcation between what is
often called "substantive" work (in our case, anything related
to the map database, i.e, "OSM community") and "administrative"
or "support" work (money and contracts, i.e., "OSMF", because it
is the legal entity). If the AoA amendment passes, I foresee
three "Board committees" being formed: budget, fundraising, and
personnel. All existing Working Groups, committees of the
community, and "special committees" would remain as they are,
nominally part of the Foundation but in reality creatures of the
OSM community, as would any future Working Groups and non-board
committees. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">apm</font></p>
On 12/2/2020 9:03 PM, Christopher Beddow wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I am writing to support this. In the Microgrants
Committee this became very relevant, on many notes. It's
important to recognize the Microgrants Committee could be seen
as a sort of working group but with a very specific project and
an end date in theory. It also had a budget to manage which was
provided by the foundation directly. There were some proposed
microgrant projects that were rejected despite excellent merit
due to fitting the activities of a working group and not the
microgrants program (which went on to receive support and be
successful that way as far as I can tell).
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<div dir="auto">Allan, would it be accurate to describe OSMF
committees as being focused on rather singular goals, often
with a measurable timeline, perhaps as a sort of managed
finite project rather than an open ended group of experts like
a working group?</div>
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<div dir="auto">For example, Data Working Group consists of
experts set to answer questions and formulate ongoing policy
about data. Meanwhile, a committee dealing with microgrants is
given a fixed budget for one time use and has a single overall
task to complete before pretty much shutting down, unless
renewed for another term. Both groups are volunteers or
appointed from a larger pool of volunteers. One is focused on
sprints and one focused on marathons.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I may be wrong so please correct this for the
broader community understanding. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 18:06
Allan Mustard <<a
href="mailto:allan.mustard@osmfoundation.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">allan.mustard@osmfoundation.org</a>>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Please read my
diary post clarifying what the proposed Articles of
Association amendment is about. There has been
confusion about it and I apologize for not being
utterly, totally clear. The diary post is here: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/apm-wa/diary/394981"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/apm-wa/diary/394981</a>.
Please feel free to leave comments there or to reply to
this talk message.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The text of the
diary post is as follows:</font></p>
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The OSMF Board is
asking the membership to approve an amendment to the
Articles of Association that will allow Board
committees (specified in the AoA as only consisting of
Board members) to include any Foundation member,
associate or full, to serve on a Board committee. The
reason for this is that some of the Board’s
administrative work, such as handling our finances,
has proven very time consuming, more than one person
can handle. Another sphere is the budget preparation,
and yet another is fundraising. Since the Board is
also hiring fulltime staff and engaging contractors,
it needs help with oversight.</font></p>
<p
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Some board members
have been asked if this is intended to supplant the
Working Groups. At least one diary entry has been
posted by a community member asserting that this is
the case, and urging Foundation members to vote
against the amendment.</font></p>
<p
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The proposed AoA
amendment is NOT intended to supplant Working Groups.
The Working Groups handle the substantive and
administrative issues of the community, which is
separate from the Foundation and the Board. The
Working Groups would therefore not be affected. As I
envision it, the Board committees would deal with
personnel, budget, and fundraising, none of which fall
in the remit of any Working Group.</font></p>
<p
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I urge Foundation
members to vote in favor of the AoA amendment, and
then to volunteer to serve on one of the Board
committees (and on Working Groups, too, but
separately!)</font></p>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thank you and
happy mapping!</font><br>
<div>-------<br>
<i>Allan Mustard, Chairperson</i><br>
<i>Board of Directors</i><br>
<i>OpenStreetMap Foundation</i></div>
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