<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:48 PM Maarten Deen <<a href="mailto:mdeen@xs4all.nl">mdeen@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have been silent about this but when a document is drafted where only <br>
supporters will be heard, I have to speak out in Frederiks support.<br>
I have seen no systemic aggressive behaviour that demotivates and <br>
excludes participation by women and minority groups in OSM or behaviour <br>
that degrades the spirit of open community culture, and damages the <br>
OpenStreetMap reputation from Frederik.<br></blockquote><div><br>Basically, a person (who is a board candidate) was denied to be able to own their own will, substituted with their employer, and insulted in a way that I cannot construct a way of self-defense from.</div><div><br>That was done by a former board member, an employee/owner of a company that has a seating board member, and if we mirror the whole thing - "done to protect Geofabrik's investment into having a seat on the board". Of course, such an interpretation will not be acceptable for current board member, employee of Geofabrik and expectedly a report of Frederik.<br><br>For some reason this aggressive gatekeeping behavior to secure a board seat from a small company is tolerated and comes unnoticed. I believe if you think Frederik's behavior is okay there, you are indeed a part of a problem, to my view. Michal has decades of experience in cartography & OSM before joining FB, but that is erased and ignored by Frederik in unacceptable fashion.<br><br>I support the document below.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 2020-12-09 20:06, Celine Jacquin wrote:<br>
> Hello everybody<br>
> I hope you are all well<br>
> <br>
> We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have<br>
> reacted to the conversation in the osm-talk-list<br>
> (<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html</a>)<br>
> considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have<br>
> faced for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest<br>
> obstacles to diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real<br>
> change.That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the<br>
> desirable mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and<br>
> improve diversity.<br>
> <br>
> We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented<br>
> to sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome):<br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> <br>
> On behalf of the signatories<br></blockquote><div><br><br>Darafei,<br>as an individual who's with OSM from 2008. </div></div></div>