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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Using a code of conduct as a weapon would fall under the category of a bad faith complaint, and I would hope that a good moderation team would be able to sort this out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve – not speaking for the subcommittee<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Andrew Hain <andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Steve Friedl <steve@unixwiz.net>; 'OSMF Talk' <osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org>; talk@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] LCCWG Moderation Subcommittee holding public discussions on Etiquette Guidelines<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I am concerned that what Steve Coast once called “poisonous people” will use etiquette guidelines to their advantage to win arguments and suppress people who get in their way. Any framework needs to be defendable against that kind of misuse.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Steve Friedl <<a href="mailto:steve@unixwiz.net">steve@unixwiz.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 24 August 2021 18:46<br><b>To:</b> 'OSMF Talk' <<a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a> <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [OSM-talk] LCCWG Moderation Subcommittee holding public discussions on Etiquette Guidelines</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The LCCWG moderation subcommittee is holding two online public meetings<br>about the revisions to the current Etiquette Guidelines, which are now open<br>for public comment.<br><br>The draft guidelines are found here, with comments open to Sept 8:<br><br><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines</a><br><br>Both online meetings will be held via Big Blue Button in this room: <br><br><a href="https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/user/mag-w4d-2qs-pie">https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/user/mag-w4d-2qs-pie</a><br><br>with two timeslots to accommodate a global audience.<br><br>Meeting #1: Thursday September 2; 1400 UTC<br><br> <a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210902T14&ah=1">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210902T14&ah=1</a><br><br> 7 AM Pacific Time (US)<br> 10 AM Eastern Time (US)<br> 2 PM UTC<br> 4 PM Central European Time<br> <br>Meeting #2: Friday September 3; 0600 UTC<br><br> <a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210903T06&ah=1">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210903T06&ah=1</a><br><br> 11 PM Pacific Time (US; evening of Sept 2)<br> 2 AM Eastern Time (US)<br> 6 AM UTC<br> 8 AM Central European Time<br><br>We welcome participation from the entire OSM community.<br><br>Steve -- for the subcommittee<br><br>---<br>Steve Friedl // Software & Network Security Consultant // 714-345-4571<br><a href="mailto:steve@unixwiz.net">steve@unixwiz.net</a> // Southern California USA // I speak for me only<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>