<div dir="ltr">It seems unusual that the beginning of this email thread begins with: the board has decided the following, but it is not what I asked for. And then the reponses started re-litigating the issue. I would have preferred a simple reporting of the result matter of factly, without the editorial addition. I believe the fact is the decision was made, now it is time to move on.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 2:34 PM Simon Poole <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Am 01.11.2021 um 19:00 schrieb Brian M.
Sperlongano:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That's why we have elected representatives to
interpret these guidelines in a sensible way.</div>
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<p>We have elected board members to interpret these guidelines in a
sensible way.</p>
<p>Small difference, but given the upcoming elections quite an
important one. Directors of a limited company do -not- represent
whoever elected them, their role is to manage the company in a
fashion that benefits the company and furthers its goals, not
those of the members that elected them. <br>
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<p>Simon<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:46 PM
Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk <<a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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<div>"where the safety of all segments of the population is
ensured" is extremely strong<br>
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<div dir="auto">and with sufficiently strict interpretation
it would exclude all locations worldwide.<br>
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<div>Nov 1, 2021, 18:11 by <a href="mailto:amanda.mccann@osmfoundation.org" target="_blank">amanda.mccann@osmfoundation.org</a>:<br>
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<div>Hello fellow OSMers,<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>At the last OSMF Board meeting a few days ago, the
Board adopted this new policy for how we will use the
(“State of the Map”) S otM trademark:<br>
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<div>OpenStreetMap welcomes and encourages participation
by everyone. This is enshrined in our Diversity
Statement. There are, however, places in the world
where people with certain attributes may face
discrimination or are systematically made to feel
unsafe.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The OpenStreetMap Foundation (OSMF) will only host
global State of the Map (SotM) conferences in places
where the safety of all segments of the population is
ensured.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Applications to host a SotM should describe and
assess the risks in that location for certain
vulnerable populations, and must certify that State of
the Map will be safe from systematic or institutional
discrimination for all attendees. Details of how this
is assessed is the mandate of the State of the Map
Working Group.<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Local and regional State of the Map conferences
should do everything reasonably possible, in their
local context, to ensure the safety of all segments of
the population. It is recognized that in some regions
and locations safety cannot be guaranteed for all
vulnerable groups, and that this should not prevent a
local or regional SotM from being held. Applications
for trademark licenses should include a safety
assessment. Details of the trademark are the mandate
of the Licensing Working Group .<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>While it is not exactly what I personally suggested
at the start, this is the decision of the board, and
represents the consensus of the discussion of the board,
working groups, and community.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>This will apply to the global state of the map, and
SotMs from Local Chapters via the Local Chapter
Agreement §5.3, and trademark grants to other
organisations running regional SotMs. It's good that
SotMs will now have to do everything “reasonably
possible” (e.g. speaker/venue/attendee choice) to ensure
LGBTQ+ (& others) are as safe as possible “in their
local context”, while also ensuring “should not prevent
a local or regional SotM from being held”. And,
obviously this does not apply to events named “State of
the Map”.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>The minutes of that meeting haven't been written (nor
accepted) yet, but they will be here <a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2021-10" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2021-10</a>
in due course. However I wanted to email yous sooner.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Onward and upwards fellow OSMers. 🙂<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 23:09 +02:00, Amanda McCann <<a href="mailto:amanda.mccann@osmfoundation.org" target="_blank">amanda.mccann@osmfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello OSM friends,<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So here's an idea... I've previously complained
when an organisation <br>
</div>
<div>holds an event in a place where it's “illegal to be
gay” and claim that <br>
</div>
<div>the event is a “safe space”. Since I'm on the OSMF
Board, I would be <br>
</div>
<div>wrong for me to continue to complain about other
organisations and not <br>
</div>
<div>try to suggest such a policy for the OSMF.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The OSMF grants a trademark licence (for the “State
of the Map” <br>
</div>
<div>trademark which the OSMF legally owns) to regional
event conferences, <br>
</div>
<div>and legally, the OSMF runs the annual State of the
Map conference.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There are several different wordings of this policy
possible. My <br>
</div>
<div>initial idea of a policy is: “you can't have a SotM
for [REGION] in a <br>
</div>
<div>venue if same-sex sexual activity is illegal (&
that's being enforced) <br>
</div>
<div>there, *and* there is a place in [REGION] where
that is legal (or <br>
</div>
<div>illegal & not enforced)”. This covers
bi/pan/queer/etc people.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can't easily think of a simple rule for
trans/gender identity issues <br>
</div>
<div>that's as clear cut for the very basic level (e.g.
many countries have <br>
</div>
<div>required gender segregated toilets for a long time
and the laws <br>
</div>
<div>requiring ”birth sex” are new and uncommon, legal
gender recognition <br>
</div>
<div>might not be so relevant for a visitor, etc) so
I'll stick to this for <br>
</div>
<div>now. I am OK with “State of the Map [COUNTRY]”
happening in a country <br>
</div>
<div>where it's illegal everywhere. My goal is to
prevent anyone having a <br>
</div>
<div>*legal downgrade* with “State of the Map”.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many in OSM have spent a long time improving things
for minoritized <br>
</div>
<div>groups, and maybe this is just another step in that
process. I am only <br>
</div>
<div>mentioning “illegal to be gay” because it's a
simple, clear standard. I <br>
</div>
<div>think it could be benefitial to include other
standards too (e.g. I <br>
</div>
<div>believe some countries forbid women from driving).
I am focussing on <br>
</div>
<div>LGBTQ+ issues because that affects me personally,
and I know a lot <br>
</div>
<div>about it. I encourage other minoritized people to
speak up if they want.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what do yous, the wider OSM(F) community think
about the OSMF <br>
</div>
<div>adopting this policy (or something like it, or not
adopting anything <br>
</div>
<div>new policy)?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-- <br>
</div>
<div>(P.S.: I recently changed my name)<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A. McCann<br>
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<div>A. McCann<br>
</div>
<div>Secretary<br>
</div>
<div>OpenStreetMap Foundation<br>
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<div>Name & Registered Office:<br>
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<div>OpenStreetMap Foundation<br>
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<div>Cowley Road<br>
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