<div dir="ltr">If we go with CC-BY 4.0 + waiver, would that solve the problem?<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>As a side note, I don't think it is healthy for us to think about somebody as a competitor. We are here to create/gather geospatial data and provide it for free to everybody, not to compete with someone. As far as I know Google is not a data provider, but rather a provider of map services so if it is competing with someone it is more Mapbox, Geofabrik,... etc. Google has decided to help us and recently also started using our data, I think we should embrace it as a recognition of our hard work and use any help there is to fulfill our mission.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br></div></div>Martin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:41 PM Simon Poole <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Am 17.09.2021 um 17:02 schrieb Mikel Maron:<br>
> Agreed this shouldn't be used for bulk import. Human reviewed conflation and editing signal I think will be useful in some regions.<br>
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It seems as if this is now available via RapiD and it is likely going to <br>
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I know nobody asked for my opinion, but I don't consider it a <br>
particularly good idea that somebody will need to go back to google and <br>
ask for their permission to retain the data if OSM ever decides it wants <br>
to change its licence. While it is true that there have been, and <br>
continue to be, other cases in which ODbL licensed data has been <br>
imported (not that I consider that a particularly good idea in those <br>
cases either), it hasn't been from a de facto competitor that is known <br>
to change its policies at the drop of a hat.<br>
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> On Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:54:53 AM EDT, <<a href="mailto:dfjkman@gmail.com" target="_blank">dfjkman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> As an example as to why it is not a good idea to use this data for a bulk import have a look at this link of one small part of Lusaka ( <a href="https://sites.research.google/open-buildings/?lat=-15.390364893412949&lng=28.321204487879392&zoom=17#explore" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sites.research.google/open-buildings/?lat=-15.390364893412949&lng=28.321204487879392&zoom=17#explore</a>), select the hybrid option to see how out it is. This shopping centre is several years old.<br>
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> From: Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: 17 September 2021 15:20<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Google Open Buildings now licensed ODbL<br>
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> As agreed with Google, I've added Google Buildings to the list of Contributors, <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Multiple_African_countries" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Multiple_African_countries</a><br>
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> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
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> On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 12:29:52 PM EDT, Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> OSM can now use this data set. Very interesting change to see G support OSM directly.<br>
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> Noting the prior discussion on quality issues on this list, expect to see this more useful in peri-urban and rural areas. The FAQ notes the importance of human review and when possible local knowledge<br>
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> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
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