<div dir="ltr">I think you've hit the nail on the head about what we mean when we say "organized editing". Whenever an editor is responsible to some other person who is coordinating their activities, and that coordinator is instructing or directing other mappers, that's organized editing. Mappers which independently choose to collaborate on some type of mapping project is not "organized editing" in the OSM context, even when there are centralized wiki pages where mappers individually and independently collaborate on a project. For example, there are currently dozens of mappers in the US collaborating on revising the guidelines for highway classifications, and making changes to the map in a coordinated way. However, we would certainly not classify those activities as "organized editing", no matter how well-organized the effort is, and regardless of the role of the thought leaders involved.<div><br></div><div>However, if Mateusz Konieczny is instructing his family and friends on what to map, and they answer only to him, it would be imperative that the community be aware that Mateusz is directing their activities, and that their profiles indicate that they can contact Mateusz as the leader of that effort. If Mateusz is encouraging his family and friends to become OSM editors, and suggesting things that could be mapped, but isn't telling them what to do, then of course that is fine and not a violation of the community expectation.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 2:29 PM <<a href="mailto:osm.sanspourriel@spamgourmet.com">osm.sanspourriel@spamgourmet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>> I was asked by people organizing it to set up OEG page on
wiki as required, but it seems not necessary.</p>
<p>Mateusz, my understanding is that you're about to make a
coordinate edition of the wiki with those people.</p>
<p>So you need to create an OEG page about the coordinated creation
for this OEG page, but please do it alone otherwise you'll need to
create an OEG page about the coordinated creation of this OEG
page, and so on ;-).</p>
<p>Yes the description is a bit too large.</p>
<p>Nevertheless it makes sense to document coordinate activities in
the wiki.</p>
<p>That way we are aware of this editor and how to reach the team if
needed.</p>
<p>Jean-Yvon<br>
</p>
<div>Le 29/12/2021 à 18:15, Yves via
osmf-talk - <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a> a écrit :<br>
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Yes, I think it is a good idea to document this group effort in
the wiki.<br>
<br>
With all the good intentions, setting up a lever to gain
contributions is still a lever, and things can always go sideways.<br>
Documenting is the best way to move in the open.<br>
Regards,<br>
Yves <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 29 décembre 2021 17:58:10 GMT+01:00,
Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk
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<div dir="auto">"The organised editing guidelines apply to any
edits that involve more than one person<br>
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<div dir="auto">and can be grouped under one or more sizeable,
substantial, coordinated editing initiatives. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">While primarily aimed at map editing, they can
also be applied to other aspects of the project, <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">e.g. the Wiki."<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines</a><br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Technically "Mateusz Konieczny asks his
friends and family to edit OSM" already <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">fits (more then one person, substantial,
coordinated by myself).<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Though it is obviously not covered.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">(I think that I complained about it when OEG
were drafted, but I cannot<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">track it down)<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But is it intended to apply in case where
group of mappers<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">- made <a href="https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl" target="_blank">https://aed.openstreetmap.org.pl</a><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">- will make easy-to use editor limited to
adding AED or<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">document how to add AED<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">- promote this across FB or something and ask
people<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">to map AED?<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I was asked by people organizing it to set up
OEG page<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">on wiki as required, but it seems not
necessary.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But OEG definition as defined technically
covers it.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But OEG definition seems broken and basically
everything<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">is covered by it.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">(maybe editing OEG and giving some examples of
what is obviously<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">covered and what is obviously not covered
would be a good idea?)<br>
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