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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not involved in the current discussions (and am certainly not speaking for anybody else), but I know what prompted it: this is entirely about anti-takeover, and nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The GlobalLogic incident around the 2018 election made it clear this is something OSM has to worry about: what if some MegaCorp paid for 1000 (or 10000) employees to become OSMF members and thus essentially pay for a slate of Board seats?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Everybody</b> should worry about this, and it’s a big enough deal that the membership passed a resolution in the 2020 AGM stating that OSMF should investigate how to ensure that applications for Foundation membership have contributed to the OSM ecosystem.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So the question is how one can create an anti-takeover system that INCLUDES those who are truly involved in OpenStreetMap, but EXCLUDES bought-and-paid-for memberships solely to vote for Mega Corp’s slate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My understanding is that OSMF would define qualifying contributions to OSM on a <u>very</u> broad and inclusive basis: mapping (of course), participating in a working group; organizing map-a-thons, building a local chapter, contributing source code, and all the things you mentioned. These make the whole OpenStreetMap ecosystem richer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have not heard one whiff that this is meant to create a selective old-boy’s club (but I see how it could look that way), and I can’t think of anybody truly involved in OpenStreetMap who would not *<b>easily</b>* qualify for membership in the Foundation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And my experience is that most people who get involved in Foundation business didn’t start out that way, but started out doing actual regular mapping: getting 42 lifetime days of mapping in your past seems like a relatively low bar. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But MegaCorp getting 1000 employees (who don’t care about OSM one way or the other) to do this would be a much bigger challenge.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In any case, this was just a proposal, and I’m glad to see there’s a good discussion. I’m not sure what I think about this yet, if only because of the work that would get dropped on the Membership Working Group to make it so. But I’m coming around.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Those with alternate proposals to protect OSMF from takeover are welcome to chime in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve – who really is not speaking for anybody else<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Imre Samu <pella.samu@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 13, 2022 12:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tobias Knerr <osm@tobias-knerr.de><br><b>Cc:</b> OSMF Talk <osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] Draft resolution on membership prerequisites<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>> "... contributed to OpenStreetMap on at least 42 days. The specific form of the contributions<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>> (e.g. mapping vs. non-mapping) does not make a difference for the fulfilment of these prerequisites"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What is the <b>definition of "non-mapping"</b> contributions?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- SOTM conference organizers?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- OSM wiki editing / translating?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Discussing tagging problems in OpenStreetMap mailing list?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- solving problems in <a href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/">https://help.openstreetmap.org/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Open-source commits - related to osm? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Creating tutorials in "non-english" language?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But probably we need to separate the contributions by payments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- voluntarily ( non-paid contributing )<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- paid by non-profit<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- paid by a for-profit company<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>// "paid contributions" --> ~"paid votes" <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And some <b><span style='color:blue'>"Hippocratic Oath for OSM voting members</span></b>" will be useful. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>like the "Hippocratic Oath for Data Scientists / The ethical checklist that every data scientist must follow"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="https://towardsdatascience.com/hippocratic-oath-for-data-scientists-407d2db15a78">https://towardsdatascience.com/hippocratic-oath-for-data-scientists-407d2db15a78</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The "Hippocratic Oath for OSM voting members"(ethical rules) will be useful for hostile takeover protection.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Special_Committee_on_Takeover_Protection">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Special_Committee_on_Takeover_Protection</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So my suggestions to consider:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- inventing a "Hippocratic Oath for OSM voting members" (ethical rules) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- prefer "un-paid" commitments ( self-declaration )<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Imre<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tobias Knerr <<a href="mailto:osm@tobias-knerr.de">osm@tobias-knerr.de</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. febr. 13., V, 17:28):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<br><br>at the 2020 AGM, a 79% majority of the membership asked the board to <br>propose prerequisites for membership in the OSM Foundation which would <br>ensure that all applicants for membership have made a reasonable amount <br>of contributions to OSM (not necessarily through mapping).[1]<br><br>We would like to ask for your feedback to a first draft of this proposal <br>which you can read below. It uses a definition for "reasonable amount of <br>contributions" that is comparable to the active contributor <br>membership[2], but has lower requirements: 42 days of contributions ever <br>instead of 42 days per year. Existing memberships would not be affected <br>by this change.<br><br>The 2020 resolution called for a membership vote on this topic in 2021. <br>Unfortunately, the board didn't produce a proposal in time for the 2021 <br>AGM and we would like to apologize for this delay. Our current plan is <br>to have the resolution ready for a general meeting on April 30, 2022.<br><br><br># Potential text of the resolution<br><br>Using its powers under §15 of the Articles of Association, the board of <br>directors shall reject applications for membership or associate <br>membership if the applicant has not demonstrably contributed to <br>OpenStreetMap on at least 42 days. The specific form of the <br>contributions (e.g. mapping vs. non-mapping) does not make a difference <br>for the fulfilment of these prerequisites. The board may delegate <br>verification and rejection of membership applications to a working group.<br><br>## Rationale:<br><br>This change would more firmly establish the OSMF as an entity serving <br>the people and communities who create OpenStreetMap. By ensuring that <br>votes in Foundation elections and resolutions are cast by OpenStreetMap <br>contributors, it becomes more likely that the Foundation will continue <br>to support the the project well.<br><br>The criteria take inspiration from the fee waiver (known as active <br>contributor membership) to allow using a similar implementation. Unlike <br>the fee waiver, eligibility will be evaluated as a one-time step during <br>application for membership, rather than annually. As such, members do <br>not have to fear losing their membership if their activity fluctuates or <br>declines. Existing memberships won't be affected.<br><br>## Considerations:<br><br>This one-time check applies to all member applications including those <br>that pay the regular £15 membership fee.<br><br><br># Footnotes<br><br>[1] <br><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meetings/2020/Suggested_resolutions#Vote_3:_Work_on_membership_prerequisites" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meetings/2020/Suggested_resolutions#Vote_3:_Work_on_membership_prerequisites</a><br>[2] <a href="https://join.osmfoundation.org/active-contributor-membership/" target="_blank">https://join.osmfoundation.org/active-contributor-membership/</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>osmf-talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>