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The nearest plan I can find is the Yalta Conference [1] where wikipedia says the very first key point is "Agreement to the priority of the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany. After the war, Germany and Berlin would be split into four occupied zones."</div>
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I note that this is a clear goal, which the OSMF plan v2 lacks.</div>
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OSM is not a federal department where you can make a plan and then tell 10,000 people what to do, nor is it the infantry from 70 years ago where you can command conscripts to march towards bullets. The (famously efficient and budget conscious) federal government
probably shouldn't be a model for planning in OSM.</div>
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In OSM we have volunteers. We can motivate volunteers with a clear and inspiring goal. We can shape their actions via the editing tools.</div>
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Organizations, especially non-profits, evolve toward self-perpetuation as their main objective. This is what the v2 plan cements in to place, a dysfunctional foundation with no clear goals, no process to define a goal, or apparently people in charge with an
idea of what a goal even is. While we do have a draft plan, the other pieces will appear one day, if someone volunteers. We noticeably go from a command-and-control plan to completely mysterious and open ended timelines, budgets or responsibility.</div>
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If anyone else wants to see OSM do better than this, please drop me an email or signal/whatsapp/etc +17209390215.</div>
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Best</div>
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[1] - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference" id="LPlnkOWALinkPreview" class="OWAAutoLink">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference</a></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Allan Mustard <allan@mustard.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 31, 2023 8:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'OSMF Talk' <osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org>; Steve Coast <steve@stevecoast.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] For Community Consultation: OSMF Strategic,, Plan Version 2</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Yep, it was. Beat the Nazis first, then the Japanese, and in broad
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strokes how to accomplish that: kick the Nazis out of North Africa to <br>
remove the threat of the Nazis having access to Middle East oil, then <br>
attack Italy, and finally attack from the west (the Normandy invasion), <br>
and all this while the Soviets counterattacked from the east with <br>
American Lend-Lease providing badly needed war materiel and food. They <br>
agreed the USSR would not attack the Japanese until the Nazis were <br>
defeated so that the USSR could divert resources from the Far East to <br>
the European front. That was all covered in detail in three pages. No <br>
budget, no specific timeline (General Marshall wanted the Normandy <br>
invasion to take place in 1943 but FDR overruled him and set it for <br>
1944, for example), just the framework for a few million documents to <br>
implement the grand strategy, down to operational orders at the platoon <br>
level.<br>
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As for when we can see the other pieces, the budget is an annual affair <br>
and future budgets will presumably incorporate guidance from the <br>
strategic plan. The tactical plans will depend on the doocracy, and some <br>
corners of OSM will act faster than others (I suspect you already knew <br>
that 😉). As a volunteer-run project, we are as always heavily <br>
dependent on how much time volunteers can devote to running the project. <br>
Pardon me, Steve, but I have to run, I have some mapping to do. 😎<br>
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cheers,<br>
apm<br>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:45:42 +0000<br>
> From: Steve Coast<steve@stevecoast.com><br>
> To:"allan@mustard.net" <allan@mustard.net><br>
> Cc: OSMF Talk<osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org><br>
> Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] For Community Consultation: OSMF Strategic,<br>
> Plan Version 2<br>
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> So the plan for invading the entire world was shorter than OSMFs plan? 🙂<br>
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> When do you think we might have these other pieces?<br>
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> Best<br>
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> Steve<br>
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