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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE-AT link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>> But also, how did the police know where to find you?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the case of my friend: probably via the car licence plate number. I personally always introduce myself by name and place of residence.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>> .. download the document, add your name and OSM account … and a small black & white photo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Even with a photo etc., the flyer can lead to the same reaction "anyone can print that out". <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is not a substitute for an official membership card.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> b.kilhu+ytrwslnopdfujmrtjzkvsxweizfjncifmzdwwypiihjzdikulpnvql+-@gmail.com [mailto:b.kilhu+ytrwslnopdfujmrtjzkvsxweizfjncifmzdwwypiihjzdikulpnvql+-@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 29. November 2023 23:46<br><b>Cc:</b> OSMF Talk <osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF Business Card<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you live at places like this then always download the document, add your name and OSM account URL bold (maybe your email address as well) in the middle and a small black & white photo in a corner before printing it out. If you are a regular mapper in an area, print sheets where that area is highlighted on a map (perhaps the back side of the flyer) with a note that you are the local maintainer of the map. Otherwise you could similarly draw a GPX path overlay of your next trip (for example if you are doing a mapping party or a longer journey around new neighborhoods). I wish you could download something like this generated from <a href="http://osm.org">osm.org</a> directly.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But also, how did the police know where to find you? What did you tell them?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is not illegal to be mapping in most countries. However, that taking photographs of people and private property is actually not unrestricted in most countries.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 9:09 PM Robert Grübler <<a href="mailto:robgruebler@gmail.com">robgruebler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>A mapper friend of mine told me about his experience yesterday:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>I was out surveying and photographed a newly built house from the street. The owner noticed it and confronted me. I explained OSM and handed over the flyer. This was not accepted - "anyone can print that out" - and demanded something official.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>The owner was very angry and threatened to file charges. Further attempts to explain only made the situation worse. I stopped the discussion and drove home.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>An hour later, the police called.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-7327911520098749112msonospacing><span lang=EN-US>"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Regards, Robert</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Robert Grübler [mailto:<a href="mailto:robgruebler@gmail.com" target="_blank">robgruebler@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 14. September 2023 17:32<br><b>An:</b> 'bluemywn' <<a href="mailto:openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc" target="_blank">openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'OSMF Talk' <<a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Osmf-talk] OSMF Business Card</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>For me, it's about building trust. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>An official membership card that you can't buy seems to me the most appropriate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> bluemywn [<a href="mailto:openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc" target="_blank">mailto:openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 14. September 2023 13:56<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:robgruebler@gmail.com" target="_blank">robgruebler@gmail.com</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF Business Card</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I think this might be a good idea but I think the first step would be to get it for the people to print themselves.<br>One could Call it a beta test of sorts.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I think that it should not be bundled in by default -- maybe a higher tier membership (fee) would get it? Or maybe you could write a message asking for one?<br><br>I would love to have an OSMF card and yet I think we should start small and slow.<br>What do you think about it?<br><br>Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Phillip</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>------- Original Message -------<br>On Thursday, September 14th, 2023 at 11:41, Robert Grübler 'robgruebler at <a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>' <<a href="mailto:openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc" target="_blank">openstreetmap@supporter.4wrd.cc</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center;background:#CF1124'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:white'>Warning: This email may be spoofed or improperly forwarded, please check the 'X-AnonAddy-Authentication-Results' header. </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:7.5pt 0cm 7.5pt 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Happy Day! I have just renewed my membership as an ordinary OSMF member and a wish, an idea has come to my mind. As a craft mapper, I am sometimes asked suspicious questions. To break the ice, the first thing I do is introduce myself. To support this, I have often wished for an OSM-related business card. Wouldn't it be a nice gesture to give all members a professionally designed, personalised business card as a small thank you after they have paid their membership fee? 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