<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">A downloadable makes
more sense. My auto insurance card (which must mandatorily be
carried in the car) comes as a downloadable PDF that you print
on paper. So does my health insurance card. About the only
plastic cards still mailed out are credit/debit cards, grocery
store loyalty cards (also available as apps), and driver's
licenses. Everything else arrives as electrons.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">How hard would it be to
write code for automatic generation of a downloadable PDF file
for dues-paying members to print at home? I have no idea.<br>
</font></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2023 1:09 PM, Robert Grübler
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:002701da2481$85a6c050$90f440f0$@gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<meta name="Generator"
content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style>@font-face
{font-family:Helvetica;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;}pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Vorformatiert Zchn";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}span.HTMLVorformatiertZchn
{mso-style-name:"HTML Vorformatiert Zchn";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Vorformatiert";
font-family:Consolas;}span.E-MailFormatvorlage20
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}</style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Am
Freitag, 1. Dezember 2023 16:10 Allan Mustard [<a
href="mailto:allan@mustard.net" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:allan@mustard.net</a>]
schrieb:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">> The problem I see is simply, "Who is going
to do the work of <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">> producing plastic membership cards, then
mailing them out annually?"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Alternatives:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">* pkpass file for wallet apps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">* pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">* jpg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Example of my “Alpenverein Mitgliedskarte”
(Alpine Club membership card):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://abload.de/img/osmf_01_msc8edza.jpg"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://abload.de/img/osmf_01_msc8edza.jpg</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I personally prefer the plastic card, but there
are print shops ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> Allan Mustard [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:allan@mustard.net">mailto:allan@mustard.net</a>] <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 1. Dezember 2023 16:10<br>
<b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF Business Card<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The
problem I see is simply, "Who is going to do the work of
producing plastic membership cards, then mailing them out
annually?" The MWG is like all working groups a small set of
volunteers who run the MWG in their spare time and I have
yet to hear from its members that they would be willing to
add this to the MWG's task list. And even then, a plastic
membership card is IMHO unlikely to quell paranoia any
better than a self-printed business card would.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Another
approach to this problem is for the OSMF board to authorize
community members to use the OSM logo for customizing
surveyor's vests and then wearing them while collecting
data. On-line retailers offer them for competitive (=low)
prices. Wearing surveyor's vests while collecting data would
allay the concerns of most (but certainly not all)
suspicious and paranoid neighbors. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/1/2023 1:34 AM, <a
href="mailto:b.kilhu+ytrwslnopdfujmrtjzkvsxweizfjncifmzdwwypiihjzdikulpnvql+-@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">b.kilhu+ytrwslnopdfujmrtjzkvsxweizfjncifmzdwwypiihjzdikulpnvql+-@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<pre>What keeps one from first paying a few euros for an official annual<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>OSMF membership, waiting for the plastic card to arrive by mail and<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>only _then_ doing photography for their terrorist activities? The<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>answer is nothing and that this conversation isn't heading in the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>right direction. I still believe my suggestion was the best so far.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>osmf-talk mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>