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</head><body text="#000000">I accept that doing it manually is expensive
to OSM however it should be possible to automate the process.<br>
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Also the cost to me is not 15 quid but close 16 quid by the time PayPal
has given me a very poor exchange rate.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2024-08-08 8:04 a.m., John Whelan
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<p>For membership payments the OSMF <a
href="https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/alternative-payment-options/"
moz-do-not-send="true">prefers
credit card or PayPal, or direct debit where applicable</a>. The
costs of the time to manually process a SEPA transfer are greater
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If we could get away from Paypal I'd be more
than happy.<br>
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When paying European invoices I just put the reference number on the
payment that goes directly to their bank. That way I don't pay an
inflated exchange rate to paypal.<br>
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I note that donations are accepted by bank transfers.
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sorry to hear about this! Thanks
for the update. We've had similar issues with CiviCRM in the past
affecting our elections due to bugs like this w/ 3rd party
integrations. </div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If the org can swing it, I would
highly suggest upgrading to a more robust CRM. It's really helpful for
organizational management, and saves a lot of time.</div><div
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never had a problem with paypal and OSM using different email<br>addresses.
One just switches to the other and neither need to know the<br>other
email address.<br><br>I do find that I have a paypal account, which is
no use to me beyond<br>OSM and do wish we used something more common
such as a normal<br>debit/credit card.<br><br>Phil (trigpoint)<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>osmf-talk
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Generally speaking there are two parts to a
system. The first is defining the requirements and you don't need
professional technical expertise to do this and then implementing them
for which you do need technical expertise.<br>
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I suspect Paypal only works easily for members who use the same email
address for paypal and OSM.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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