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<div dir="auto">Thanks!<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I replied there, both to hot dog comment<br></div><div dir="auto">and more (?) serious parts.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">20 Oct 2024, 17:56 by courtney.williamson@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">To Andy's good point - I moved this to the community forum: <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-are-the-costs-vs-utility-of-the-tile-servers-to-the-osm-community/120403">https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-are-the-costs-vs-utility-of-the-tile-servers-to-the-osm-community/120403</a><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:19 AM Edward Bainton <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:bainton.ete@gmail.com">bainton.ete@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Question for info and not as a challenge: <br></div><div><br></div><div>What would be the route into mapping for newbies if there were no tile-servers? If retiring them means retiring the map at <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a>, I know I would never have got into it. (But maybe that would have been <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1907943" target="_blank">a good thing</a> ;-)<br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 at 16:06, Courtney <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:courtney.williamson@gmail.com" target="_blank">courtney.williamson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">I am putting the question below in a new thread, as it doesn't have to do with the AGM, but does seem like a topic that bears discussing. The question isn't "what are the technical benefits of the tile servers?" That is a different topic. This is about the overall value of the tile servers versus the costs of maintaining them.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">C<br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 10:15 AM Steve Coast <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:steve@stevecoast.com" target="_blank">steve@stevecoast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 20, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Mikel Maron <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>In 2023, we organized a successful fundraising campaign <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/category/organisation/fundraising/" target="_blank"> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/category/organisation/fundraising/</a> (the total announced results were £373,000, not sure if that's the source of the $300k figure).<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div>Yes, and that is genuinely great, but the question is what do we get for the money?<br></div><div><br></div><div>The major output remains the free global tile server, where something like 99% of the usage is by third parties and not OSM. We create our own funding requirement and dedicate our sysadmin time to running this thing despite completely free alternatives
now existing (e.g. <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://openfreemap.org/" target="_blank">https://openfreemap.org/</a> ) and then celebrate the “growth” of our “service”.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We could use these resources to, for example, complete the map.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It seems cheaper and more effective marketing to run a free OpenStreetMap coffee and hot dog stand in Times Square, New York City.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best<br></div><div><br></div><div>Steve <br></div></div><div dir="auto">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="auto"> osmf-talk mailing list<br></div><div dir="auto"> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div dir="auto"> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="auto"> osmf-talk mailing list<br></div><div dir="auto"> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div dir="auto"> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote> </body>
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