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    <p>Could we make at least a token attempt to stay roughly on topic?
      Steve is just trolling here (with a straw man he probably doesn't
      even realize is totally out of date).</p>
    <p>Simon<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.10.2024 um 16:03 schrieb Steve
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          <div>On Oct 20, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Mikel Maron
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                    <div>In 2023, we organized a successful fundraising
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                      total announced results were £373,000, not sure if
                      that's the source of the $300k figure).</div>
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      <div>Yes, and that is genuinely great, but the question is what do
        we get for the money?</div>
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      <div>The major output remains the free global tile server, where
        something like 99% of the usage is by third parties and not OSM.
        We create our own funding requirement and dedicate our sysadmin
        time to running this thing despite completely free alternatives
        now existing (e.g. <a href="https://openfreemap.org/"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://openfreemap.org/</a> )
        and then celebrate the “growth” of our “service”.</div>
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      <div>We could use these resources to, for example, complete the
        map.</div>
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      <div>It seems cheaper and more effective marketing to run a free
        OpenStreetMap coffee and hot dog stand in Times Square, New York
        City.</div>
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      <div>Best</div>
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      <div>Steve </div>
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